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Old May 24th, 2008, 02:16 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Leave it to Black Folk, to practice beliefs and values to the Death, that aren't even our own.. We are stills stuck believing in either some Jewish/Hebrew/Arabic/Europeans mess, that is Not of our own.
 
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Old May 26th, 2008, 01:06 PM   #92 (permalink)
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race is thicker than sexuality. to each his own. i have gay fam. there's nothing wrong with the lifestyle. i've watched a gay person grow up. their born that way, to be sure. not their fault.

black on black crime is black on black crime. we can't kill each other for our differences.
That's a bunch of bullshyd! We are born heterosexual: Biology 101; a man has a penis, a woman has a vagina. Do I have to also explain to you how both of them work in tandem? These organs were designed for excretion of waste and reproduction. PERIOD.

These organs were NOT designed to facilitate a lifestyle.

Homosexuality, like any other sexually deviant or perverse BEHAVIOR, is a sickness. People need to stop with retarded and disgraceful rationalizations of other's behavior.
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Old May 26th, 2008, 01:24 PM   #93 (permalink)
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There are scientists on both sides of just about every issue to man. There are even scientists that beleive the world is and what flat. Don't confuse a creative collection of theories for fact. for Every pro-homosexual 'research' piece and assertion, you will find many others that repeatedly and resoundingly refute it's claims.

As humans, we tend to beleive what we want to beleive. If you really want to know the scientific and religious position on homosexual BEHAVIOR, then observe the facts.

You don't have to have kids. That is YOUR choice. But guess what? You can't say you were born not wanting to have kids! You made a choice and you are happy with that choice. People choose to be gay, some sooner than others. What we choose to do with our bodies is often not what God intended. I'm not preaching here, just making a point.

I find it amazing that you don't understand the purpose of the human sex organs. That in itself is the most profound piece of evidence as to the sexual orientation of humans at birth.

If God wanted people to be born homosexual, they would have both sex organs, lol!
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Old May 26th, 2008, 10:07 PM   #94 (permalink)
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Old May 27th, 2008, 09:22 AM   #95 (permalink)
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There are scientists on both sides of just about every issue to man. There are even scientists that beleive the world is and what flat. Don't confuse a creative collection of theories for fact. for Every pro-homosexual 'research' piece and assertion, you will find many others that repeatedly and resoundingly refute it's claims.

As humans, we tend to beleive what we want to beleive. If you really want to know the scientific and religious position on homosexual BEHAVIOR, then observe the facts.

You don't have to have kids. That is YOUR choice. But guess what? You can't say you were born not wanting to have kids! You made a choice and you are happy with that choice. People choose to be gay, some sooner than others. What we choose to do with our bodies is often not what God intended. I'm not preaching here, just making a point.

I find it amazing that you don't understand the purpose of the human sex organs. That in itself is the most profound piece of evidence as to the sexual orientation of humans at birth.

If God wanted people to be born homosexual, they would have both sex organs, lol!
All I can say is any "brother" that believes this flawed and ILlogical "Philosophy", then they are truly sad.
 
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All I can say is any "brother" that believes this flawed and ILlogical "Philosophy", then they are truly sad.
Now that we know your subjective opinion, would you be so kind to share your objective view? If you have anything to contradict hard science and simple facts, by all means I would love to hear it.

I would love to hear your explanation of why we have reproductive organs. I would also love to hear why you think science that has been proven over and over for decades upon decades is flawed.

If you are unable to be objective, it is your mindset, that is truly sad....

As far as so called Gay Bashing is concerned, I feel no sympathy whatsoever for whatever heat they catch as a result of the choices they make. It's a sickness, and they need help. It's not my job or obligation to make fags feel better about themselves.
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Old May 27th, 2008, 03:03 PM   #97 (permalink)
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I can give you the sources for the information above. They're all from reputable sources, scientists working at research universities and experts on the subject. Like I said, I researched this a lot, brother Black. Before I read up on it, I believed the same as you. But if you've got some info I don't, please share. One thing I realize about science is that it does evolve and change. That's the nature of the field.



I would ask of you your explanation of asexuality, condoms, why certain people don't want kids (does that make people like me deviant as well?), and your answer to my original question (do you intend to make children every time you have sex?). You define reproductive organs simply by their function. It would only follow that you would believe that reproductive organs should be used for reproduction. Therefore if you use them, you must use them with the intention of impregnation otherwise your actions are inherently unnatural, right?



Because that's the nature of science. There's always something we don't know. However, until something is proven incorrect we should accept the best answers available to us. Gravity is hardly something we understand. It's a multidimensional warp effect of time and space. Few people truly grasp the underlying aspects to it. Nonetheless we all accept that what goes up generally comes down. It's a part of nature. Likewise, my homosexual family are a part of nature, as natural as you or me. Homosexuality occurs everywhere: In cultures where its shunned and accepted; in advanced civilizations and underdeveloped ones; in humans and apes; in mammals and aves. That's just how it is.

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Thanks. Some of these look quite familiar and I will put them under scrutiny when I have the opportunity. The ones I do recognize were hardly conclusive in the physiological vs environment/behavior or combinatorial arguments. They were interesting reads though.
 
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Regardless of what any scientist or doctor says, I watched my little cousin grow up and even when he was smaller, I noticed homosexual tendencies. Now, I'm not a scientist and I'm not going to go out and "research" this because there are going to be arguments on both sides, so I won't believe it. What I will believe, is what I saw with my two eyes for the course of 10 years. I'm not going to say thay people are born gay and I'm not going to say people choose to be gay, but I am going to say that based on what I've observed, it's a mixture of both. I watched my cousin since the day he was born and I've witnessed friends, scorned by men switch over to the other side. I can't say how all homosexuals in the world became homosexuals, but I will keep an open mind because science makes breakthroughs everyday.
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Regardless of the findings, I think its important to at least respect and acknowledge alternate lifestyles so long as they don't violate the rights of others. What someone does behind closed doors in their business. That's my belief, anyway.
Didn't imply otherwise. I'm only interested in the progress of research on the debate.
 
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