"Im tired of spending my tax dollars on lil crumb snatchers"

[Isis7]

I'll tell you what REALLY irks my nerves.. People who run their mouths about single mothers and their "bebe kids" and how their sick and tired of their "hard-earned" tax dollars going to feed them. These people have absolutely NO IDEA of the circumstances that led up to single motherhood and are just looking for a place to point fingers and lay blame. When 60% of Black homes are headed by single mothers its quite obvious that the problems lies with BOTH Black men and Black women, but noooooooooooooooo self-righteous "tax-payers" are "fed up" and simply want someone to blame.

As someone who works in the welfare system, let me tell you about your tax dollars if I may. 80% of TANF funds (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families aka WELFARE) is spent on medicare and medicaid of which 76% of the participants are elderly white folk. WHICH MEANS that the majority of the 3% of your taxes that go to welfare are spent on OLD WHITE PEOPLE IN CONVALESCENT HOMES!! Not needy Black children! You pay MORE for crooked cops to go on "administrative leave" after shooting unarmed Black men 41 times... you pay MORE for crooked politicians to smile in your face and make you false promises. You pay more for GWB to send 21 year old Black men and women to foreign lands only to come back to their families in BODY BAGS.

If I hear one more person talking about their tax dollars and welfare I swear im going to SNAP! If I hear one more person talk about Black children like orphans as if the term "crumb snatcher" has even an ounce of respect in it, i'll SNAP! If I hear one more person point their wrinkled up, dirty little finger at Black families while sipping a latte and petting their pet pooch "pumpkin", i'll SNAP!

Stop being so high and mighty, find some humility, roll up your sleeves and watch your mouth!

[JamieC]

Don't COMPLAIN.. Campaign!!

[elmb]

say hallelujah somebody

[Lonewolf]

Well I'm sorry, but I really don't like my hard earned money going to other people without my say so, be they somebody else's kids or old white folks. I'd rather have the freedom to give it away myself if I so choose. I don't have any kids, so I'd appreciate it if I didn't have to pay for others kids. I don't know any old white folks, so I can't be worried about them either.

Personally, I think the whole thing needs to be redone. And anyway, when it comes to dirty cops and crooked politicians, I really don't see what that has to do with the greater problem of all these out of wedlock kids being born and childless people having to be concerned about it. They're completely seperate issues.

By the way, free condoms are a lot cheaper than that 3% we spend on welfare.

[Isis7]

Maybe you should read my post again, and this time slower.

The "whole thing" WAS redone, its called welfare reform. But guess what, welfare reform doesnt work either. And you know what else Lonewolf? Believe it or not, you live in a DEMOCRACY and in a DEMOCRACY there has to be a level of social programs designed FOR THE PEOPLE. If you dont like social programs you move to Cuba. Simple.

If you dont like it, dont pay taxes.

All of these "out of wedlock" kids being born is hardly the issue. How do you know that they are born "out of wedlock" just because someone might be getting food stamps for them? It could be a product of divorce or death! But noooooooooooo when you take the selfish approach you dont see these things. What you OUGHT to do is find at least an ounce of humility in your soul, kill the selfishness, and STOP complaining.


WWJD?

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Well I'm sorry, but I really don't like my hard earned money going to other people without my say so, be they somebody else's kids or old white folks. I'd rather have the freedom to give it away myself if I so choose. I don't have any kids, so I'd appreciate it if I didn't have to pay for others kids. I don't know any old white folks, so I can't be worried about them either.

Personally, I think the whole thing needs to be redone. And anyway, when it comes to dirty cops and crooked politicians, I really don't see what that has to do with the greater problem of all these out of wedlock kids being born and childless people having to be concerned about it. They're completely seperate issues.

By the way, free condoms are a lot cheaper than that 3% we spend on welfare.

thats some wild statistics

I personally dont think much about where my tax dollar goes and the reason is this if one day I become rich all the things I want from my government i will be able to buy, so I kind of look at it like the things I want from the govt I can t afford when I can give some politicians some money then I will get what I want. We should just pay our taxes to the politicians directly then I bet things would get done a whole lot faster

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by Isis7

Maybe you should read my post again, and this time slower.

The "whole thing" WAS redone, its called welfare reform. But guess what, welfare reform doesnt work either. And you know what else Lonewolf? Believe it or not, you live in a DEMOCRACY and in a DEMOCRACY there has to be a level of social programs designed FOR THE PEOPLE. If you dont like social programs you move to Cuba. Simple.

If you dont like it, dont pay taxes.

All of these "out of wedlock" kids being born is hardly the issue. How do you know that they are born "out of wedlock" just because someone might be getting food stamps for them? It could be a product of divorce or death! But noooooooooooo when you take the selfish approach you dont see these things. What you OUGHT to do is find at least an ounce of humility in your soul, kill the selfishness, and STOP complaining.


WWJD?

Who's complaining? YOU are.

I know this is a democracy, thank you. I also know that kids who are born out of wedlock are not the only ones who are the recipients of welfare. Lastly, I know that "welfare reform" didn't work, so that's why it needs to be redone...again.

It's not social programs I have a problem with, it's people preaching to other people about what they ought to be doing with their money. I don't have a big problem paying taxes. We need to pay taxes to basically run the country. I think there should be money set aside for people who have trouble. I know that there are homeless people, sick people, etc. But I do have a problem with paying for other people's kids when I don't have them myself, and if that bothers you then I don't know what else to say. Feel free to "snap" like you threatened earlier if it makes you feel better to do so.

Speaking of selfish, I think it's selfish (not to mention obscenely irresponsible) for people to keep having babies when they can't afford the ones they have. Why not ask those people what Jesus would do?

Anyway, the only person complaining here is you.

[Isis7]

Im not complaining ONE BIT Lonewolf, im calling to attention how self-righteous you were in your recent comments:

You say:
"...but I really don't like my hard earned money going to other people without my say so, be they somebody else's kids or old white folks..."

Guess what? You DONT have a say so, all you do is check your paystubs and see what ol' uncle sam done took out this time... You have no say so as to where it goes, it just goes.

So you have a problem paying for other peoples kids EVEN AFTER I pointed out to you that you pay SQUAT for that? You pay more for crooked cops to kill unarmed men but its HUNGRY BABIES that you have the problem with? You pay more for this illegitimate war in Iraq, but its hungry BABIES you have issues with? LOL! LOL

You have made some ASSININE and IRRESPONSIBLE generalizations of welfare recipients in your two posts Lonewolf, not only is that also selfish, but it also shows your ability to point fingers without realizing the ones pointing back at you.

Im hardly the one complaining here. Just pointing out to you how backwards your sentiments are.

Again I ask, WWJD? Would he let babies starve because he was childless?

[Lonewolf]

Wow. You are really emotional about this issue, so I'm just going to let it die after this post.

I know full well I have no say so where the tax money goes. I haven't given it much thought since you started this thread, basically DARING people to challenge you talking about you're going to "snap".

Please.

Anyway, I didn't say I'd let babies starve. But knowing full well that I don't know all the babies, can't save all the babies...I find it futile to waste time thinking about it. I like babies, probably not as much as you apparently, but to me this is really more about WHY these babies are "starving".

The biggest reason is irresponsiblity. I mean, sure, we don't know why a woman (or a man) is a single parent and needs welfare. But the truth is, if a person dies and leaves the other person with kids and they need welfare after that, they were screwed to begin with. We all know it takes TWO incomes to run a household nowadays, so it's really irresponsible to not have it. My father died when I was a kid and we had little to no money after his medical bills. He left us with quite a bit of debt, so you know what we did? My mom got a job, two of them. Her "babies" didn't starve, and we did it without welfare.

Again, I don't have a problem with welfare or public assistance. I have a problem with the lack of responsibilty that leads to it.

If babies are starving somewhere, then it has more to do with their parents not having it together than it does me and my so-called "selfish", "backwards", and "asinine" point of view. Rest assured, if I ever have kids they most certainly will not starve and we will not need to be on welfare. It's called being responsible and having a plan.

You might have an easier time if you focused less on what other people should be doing and just did it yourself.

Anyway, I'm not trying to be your enemy or argue with you, so I'll leave this thread in peace. Have a good day.

[Phatkatt_76]

IT'S A MIRACLE !!! I must say, I agree. But even though we know it takes two, I blame women. We as the primary caregiver of these children need to be responsible for our own sexuality. Now, if they want a house filled with lil' crumb snatchers, then fine. I just ask that ya take care of the lil munchins, cuz I for one am tired of spending my tax dollars on them !!



YEP !!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS MY STATEMENT FROM ANOTHER THREAD !!!!!!!

And I stand behind it 110% !!!!!!!!!

First of all let me say, I'M A SINGLE PARENT, and have raised my son on my own from day one. So, I definitely know and have experienced the struggle behind doing so. BUT I can't stand excuses, not just for sistahs but this includes whites, latinos......WHOEVER B/C my statement is universal for all women. Not cuz I'm so "high & mighty" but b/c I've faced the consequence of being a so-called "know it all" . I've faced the consequence, of believing that a MAN loved me, and would eventually marry me. ( I was dead @ZZZZ wrong )

No one is complaining ! He!! I'm being realistic ! I live in Florida, and see a lot of women in general who make the sad and insecure mistake of scripting their lives around men. Only to be left to raise their children on their own, and yea, if they've experienced this and still choose to have a house filled with CRUMB SNATCHERS ( WHICH I PERSONALLY USE THAT TERM AS A JOKE ) THEN BY ALL MEANS HANDLE IT WITH UR OWN $$$$$$ !!! AT THE SAME TIME THESE VERY FEMALES, HAVE THE NERVE TO CALL THESE MEN WHO DON'T WNAT THEM SORRY, WELL NEWS FLASH, THEY WERE SORRY WHEN YA LAID DOWN WITH THEM. Charge "being played" to the game, learn from ur mistakes and take care of ur kids. WTF did they do before F-in WELFARE ?????????

This issue is not a "BLACK " issue it, to me is a FEMALE ISSUE, b/c WE'RE the ones who end up struggling and hurt. That's why my OPINION is for us to be solely responsible for our sexuality. YES it should invovle both parties, but as women we can't depend on that.

I could give a damm about how many OTHER ppl are on welfare or recieve public assistance. ANYONE WITH CHILDREN SHOULD BE FIGHTING TO HOLD THEIR OWN, AND IGNORE EXCUSES AND STEREOTYPES. If .50 of my YES hard earned money goes to individuals, who refuse to work but lean on an excuses then HE!! YEA it pissses me the F off .