Aren't We The Same???

[trinigirl]

KMT Yes my sis, Just reading the dialogue in the thread about the Brazilian sisters tripped me, hence the reason for me really needing to VENT this. One thing I have found from interacting with my family from many many different places is that we are really the same.. with different accents but by and large our levels of morality, spirituality, and family are similar. So why must there continue to be the attitude that "these women are trying to get our men & money..." or "they're coming here..." The thing is we all arrived somewhere.

There are beautiful brothers and sisters where i am from that will make great companions and friends etc.etc.
peace

[KMTSista]

Originally Posted by jacqui

I've seen this occur many times and I am always floored when I see it. Just this past Saturday at the gym, there is a sister from Nigeria in the class and 2 of the heifers in the class were talking to her so nasty and in such a disrespectful manner. I was so glad when she said, " I am not the child of either of you 2 sickly women. Remember that." I was so proud of her and I winked at her.

I have seen some of us be so nasty to our brothers and sisters. But then it is expected because look how some of us treat each other.

That's a shame, and it breaks my heart. There is so much division that goes back and forth. I remember attending a function at Howard University, and at the same time an African family rented a room for a family function in the same building and my friend and I went into their room by mistake because we couldn't find the right room for this university function. When we walked up to the door we asked if this was the room for the such in such, we got the evil eye literally, as if we were demonic and had envaded their territory, and I could have gotten angry, which I was, but not because of their reasons for being angry that we came in their room, but for the fact that this in house discrimination has gone too far, and black americans don't make it better given that some of us have been so colonialized that we look down on our brothers and sisters from varioues regions outside of the US.

We've got to do better than this my people, because if we continue we take the place of the Slave Master.

[KMTSista]

Originally Posted by trinigirl

KMT Yes my sis, Just reading the dialogue in the thread about the Brazilian sisters tripped me, hence the reason for me really needing to VENT this. One thing I have found from interacting with my family from many many different places is that we are really the same.. with different accents but by and large our levels of morality, spirituality, and family are similar. So why must there continue to be the attitude that "these women are trying to get our men & money..." or "they're coming here..." The thing is we all arrived somewhere.

There are beautiful brothers and sisters where i am from that will make great companions and friends etc.etc.
peace

Yeah I feel you. I take part of the blame in the argument about Brazilian women because honestly it wasn't about Brazilian women per say, but more of me not being aware that a lot of Brazilian women are black. I honestly was not aware, but was educated on the issue, you feel me? See how the conditions of Hollywood has brainwashed us?

Which shows all of us need some growth. I always invisioned Brazilian women being more on the look of let's say Michael Michelle, so when I read it, I was like ok so what lighter skinned women are more beautiful than darker women, then of course my own insecurities on other things didn't help.

This is why us having forums and discussing varioues issues opens the topics and opens our eyes on our own slave minded mentality. All of us are slave minded some more than others, so educating each other by allowing each other to teach or give points of view is very important.

I think the black community should start forming nation wide and state wide healing seminars in every city and state to re-connect everyone, where Africans, West Indians, Latinos and Black Americans can sit and have an open discussion to spill out all of our questions about one another, to clear the air between the cultures and the people, and allow each other speak each others mind, then teaching each other why these conditions and discriminations started to begin with, which was the brainwashing over time by colonializm aka yt

Sort of like if you are in AA, and you are a parent who did drugs around your children and it hurt your children so much that while in rehab you have to have family counseling sessions where the children are allowed to say what they need to say. If we don't say it, vent it, it can't be fixed.

Sit down and ask your African brother why they have anger towards us, and vice versa. Ask our latinos what hurts them or makes them angry with not only Black Americans and Africans, but also the in house racism within their own culture i.e. Mexicans vs. Puerto Ricans

We will find that by having these open seminars that "divide and conquer" line will deplete itself.

I honestly believe that, then we will stop using words like:

Minority
Third World Countries

because we are neither

[robbboy2003]

Well, to me it's like this. There was a thread,and i think it was the spirituality section,where a sista. I think her name is KMTSista,and another sista Nyela i think her name is,if i recall correctly. They had a disagreement,and couldn't seem to get it together. I like no love most of the words of both of the sista's.


Now, take this situation,and blow it up times about a billion,or zillion. Strong beautiful Black folks wanting to hold on to a part of themselves,but needing to learn to reach and out share with another Black soul,so that their spirit is whole. Yeah, I know uncle Robby is getting deep wit it now Lol! It is imperative i feel,that we Blacks really come together. I don't know about you,but i kind of look forward to seeing my brotha's and sista's from all over the world. Each of us has a great and wonderful story to share and tell to each other.

And like the two marvelous women,that i mentioned earlier,perhaps,if they delved a little deeper. They would fine,that they have more similarities than differences. Are not both their skins beautifully covered Ebony Brown. Peace and make sense not nonsense!

[KMTSista]

Originally Posted by robbboy2003

Well, to me it's like this. There was a thread,and i think it was the spirituality section,where a sista. I think her name is KMTSista,and another sista Nyela i think her name is,if i recall correctly. They had a disagreement,and couldn't seem to get it together. I like no love most of the words of both of the sista's.


Now, take this situation,and blow it up times about a billion,or zillion. Strong beautiful Black folks wanting to hold on to a part of themselves,but needing to learn to reach and out share with another Black soul,so that their spirit is whole. Yeah, I know uncle Robby is getting deep wit it now Lol! It is imperative i feel,that we Blacks really come together. I don't know about you,but i kind of look forward to seeing my brotha's and sista's from all over the world. Each of us has a great and wonderful story to share and tell to each other.

And like the two marvelous women,that i mentioned earlier,perhaps,if they delved a little deeper. They would fine,that they have more similarities than differences. Are not both their skins beautifully covered Ebony Brown. Peace and make sense not nonsense!

say what? are you referring to the thread I created which was closed? The debate was a religious discussion where name calling came about.

No offense, but please don't bring a thread in regards to our differecnes in spiritual belief's over here, and then tell me I wasn't "delving" deeper. I think what I think about my African faith, leave it at that.

Moving on............

[robbboy2003]

No offense taken. Yes, moving on. I guess this makes for a perfect segue into the fact that, "Hell yeah"! folks are different.

However, despite miscommunication sometimes,we still are very much the same. We want similar things. I look at my brother from Uganda no differently,than my bro down the street. I have the universal head nod for him just like my brotha here. It's a brotherly understanding of the struggle that we face. I see same same in that.

I see the thirst in conscious Black folk here,that want to connect with their families all over this globe period. I see the same in many Blacks elsewhere.

There some Blacks here,that you don't give a fu#k about,cus they're tools. Small minded (i could blast into a rant) but i won't. There are good Black folks all over. I have no doubt,that the way is to be inclusive,and not exclusive. I'd much rather be in a welcoming committee of my brotha's and sista's anywhere,than with a bunch of lying arse back biting three faced pale faces. Again, noone knows what a brotha has to go through,but another brotha.

Shem Loew! Peace!

[DBlack]

No, we are not the same. Period.

[JABOOM]

YOU KNOW WHAT!!!!

I really hate this type of arguments IT'S STUPID!!!

We are the same because we are one people. SO F***ING WHAT SOME OF US DIDN'T HAVE OUR ANCESTORS SNATCHED FROM OUR HOME

But the point us that these type of ignorant arguments keep us SEPARATE NEAR AND FAR!!!! PERIOD!!!

[Corals]

Originally Posted by Diamond

No We are NOT the same. As you can tell we do live in "Americia" and we blackpeople have been "americanized" (If there is such a word). I have heard about this issue for a while many "africans" feel that we "american black people" reallyl dont understand bout our hertitage and they feel that because of that we are diffrent.

That probably answers the question as to why Black people as a whole cannot get along with one another and be united. Maybe it is because, as you stated, we are not the same.

[Samoon]

Originally Posted by Gorilla

This is an understandable frustration; however, African Americans do not have a monopoly on this. The Diaspora has always been filled with back biting in every direction. I would like to see things change some day, but I'm not holding my breath.

I concur with this poster.