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Old May 6th, 2006, 01:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry People who can't mind their own business

This topic is probably going to ruffle some feathers so I would like to lay down some ground rules before proceeding. The first is that I believe that as mature adults, we should all be able to express our opinions without being rude to each other. If someone is remotely rude to me, I won’t indulge them with a response, because between my studies and brainstorming on other issues, I have no such time.

That being said, two weeks ago I went out to a restaurant with a white female friend of mine. We were talking quietly and laughing and just having a good time when she asked to be excused so she could use the ladies room. So for a few minutes I was alone. Some black woman who I had never seen before came up to my table, looked me in the eyes and said (I’m paraphrasing as best as I can) “so you brought this white woman over here so that she can spend your money huh? I know black men like you, you are the type that upon making a dollar wants to spend it all on the white man’s daughter. Aren’t you ashamed of yourself, seated here spending $200 on dinner for a white woman? Is it because black women aren’t good enough? What is with the low self esteem brotha?” I was so shocked I just stared at her speechless. Here I was, in a lovely restaurant, with a female who I grew up in the same neighborhood with, who I had been friends with for ten years and we are minding our own business and some crazy black female comes up to me to say what? What pissed me off even more is that when she walked back to her table I noticed that she was there with 3 female friends, who were black and who were giggling and had clearly enjoyed that their friend had come over to “confront” me.

Needless to say, I have never dated a non black woman in my life. The lady I dined with is my best female friend and she paid for her own dinner and I paid for mine. However, what is it that bothers some sistas so much when they see a black man with a white woman? Any successful black man will tell you that the vast majority of well educated, wealthy black men marry and date black women not to try to appease you, but because it is a fact. Do you believe the truth or do you believe the lies that the media feeds you? Yaaams touched on this topic in the context of black basketball players, to show that the majority of them have black wives somes years ago. They noted that the media will focus more on the black man,white woman couple than they do on a successful black man/black woman couple. What do black women believe, the facts, or the gossip which they spread amongst themselves because of what the white controlled media would have them believe?

Why is it that I have never heard anyone refer to Heather Headley who is married to a white man as a sellout? Why don’t people call the rapper Eve who is dating a white man a sellout? Why is Tumi Makgabo, the South African cnn international news reporter who married a Norwegian shipping magnate not a sellout? What about Iman? What about Naomi Campbell who has dated more white men than black since she found fame? Are these women sellouts? If they are, I’ve never heard a black woman say so.

Furthermore, why do a lot of black women care about the dating choices of a minority of black men when black women are also dating outside of their race?. The truth is that black men date white women at a much higher rate than black women date white men. However interracial marriage statistics tell us that the number of black men married to white women is 2 to 2-5 times higher than there are black women married to white men. That tells us that though black men date outside the race at a much higher rate than black women, when it comes to marriage, the disparity becomes much smaller especially when one considers the fact that most black women are not willing to consider dating outside the race.

That being said why should anyone be bothered by who someone else is dating? Why? Don’t people have enough work of their own to do? What is with all the anger concerning other peoples business? I don’t get it. Black women of afrochat, please help me understand it. Thanks.
 
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Old May 6th, 2006, 05:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hmm.. good question. Didn't ruffle my feathers one bit because I'm married to an Italian. Rather hard for me to speak for other black women. So I'm sure they'll be sharing their opinions soon. :)
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Old May 6th, 2006, 07:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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"what is it that bothers some sistas so much when they see a black man with a white woman?"

I suggest that you change "sistas" to "people".

I was cussed out by two brothas driving by as I stood before a restaurant with a white male co-worker while waiting for the rest of our party (all co-workers, 3 black, 2 white) to come outside. I was thoroughly embarassed for two ignorant black men, whom I pretty sure wouldn't have given me the time of day if I'd been standing there alone.
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Old May 6th, 2006, 08:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Some of us are just very ignorant. My wife is very light skinned. Just after we got married I took her to a restaurant that I frequented before we married and the girls that worked their were obviously nasty. I went to ythe manager and asked her what the hell was going on.

The manager admitted their behavior was unprofessional but then said that's what happens when you walk in here with a spainish girl. After I told her my wife was black she must have said I'm sorry about 1000 time if she said it 1001 I didn't hear it beacuse my wife and I left and I told everyone I knew how they treated us there and asked them not to go there anymore. The restaurant closed 2 months later from lack of business. And no I don't feel bad about it at all.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 01:09 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Well as a Black man I don't like the idea of interracial dating for a few reasons, some of which I've stated here before and don't feel like rehashing. But even though I will admit to anyone who asks that I don't agree with it, I still don't think it's right to go around disrespecting people and the choices they make concerning their lives. Grown folks have the right to do as they please and the same folks who think nothing of confronting people they do not know about something that is none of their business are the same ones who would be quick to jump up and set it off if someone was getting all up in their's.
 
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Old May 7th, 2006, 03:52 AM   #6 (permalink)
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yall already know how i feel about dating out side of your race so the best thing for me to do is ta :zipit: before i make some people mad and i really dont feel like setting any one strait tonight

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Old May 7th, 2006, 11:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I think that at the end of the day whether people like the idea of interracial dating or not, they should mind their own business. The last time i checked, it did not cost anyone anything, to mind their own business concerning the issue at hand.
 
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Old May 7th, 2006, 11:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I think that at the end of the day whether people like the idea of interracial dating or not, they should mind their own business. The last time i checked, it did not cost anyone anything, to mind their own business concerning the issue at hand.
Exactly. Live and let live is my motto. If it ain't hurtin anyone, especially kids, then it's not worth minding someone else's business.
 
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Exactly. Live and let live is my motto. If it ain't hurtin anyone, especially kids, then it's not worth minding someone else's business.
I agree this is how it should be and I wouldnt approach a couple about my feelings. But whenever I see a Black man with a white women, I FEEL my heart squeezing tight. The man doesnt even have to be remotely attractive to me. Its just an automatic reaction. I try not to stare at them either, but I do find myself checking out the chick to see what they find attractive in her, because, personally I find nothing attractive about Caucasions.
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Old May 21st, 2006, 02:52 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I agree this is how it should be and I wouldnt approach a couple about my feelings. But whenever I see a Black man with a white women, I FEEL my heart squeezing tight. The man doesnt even have to be remotely attractive to me. Its just an automatic reaction. I try not to stare at them either, but I do find myself checking out the chick to see what they find attractive in her, because, personally I find nothing attractive about Caucasions.
I feel ya. I find myself thinking "what's wrong with this picture?" whenever I see interracial couples. I can't help it. When I think about our history and some of the atrocities that took place because those types of relationships were rumored, or all the Black women that have been raped by white men simply because the men knew there would be no repurcussions, or all the white women who got them a good screw and then cried rape when caught. Because of those things not only could I not cross the color line but I can't fathom why anyone else would want to either.

But having said that, I also recognize that it's not for me to fathom or wonder or whatever. What grown folks do and feel is their business and not mine. I have enough to concentrate on in my own love life (you know, when I had one) to be worry about someone else's. To each their own.
 
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