Birth Control for Men

[Weapon_of_Israel]

Now that this topic died out and everyone said what they had to say, i will finish my piece.

The Bible was inspired by the Holy Spirit written by man and not every single every word is to be taken literally but rather to be used in the context of the entire story.

LIES.

Luk 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

The BIble says to go line upon line, and here a little and there a little, to get the understanding.

Also, please find me scriptures that are against or show that female’s tubes cut, tied or burned was not used as a practice to stop producing children.

When you quoted the verses about evil—I was relating it to birth control.

NO u didnt, your post is above, you already said what you meant.

I Corinthians 7:2-6 ----Since the Bible clearly states a husband and wife can decide to refrain from sex for Christian purposes such as spiritual needs; it also sets the example they can also refrain from sex for other loving needs.

More Lies. It says what it says. They may stop for PRAYING and FASTING. It does not say anything else. You are the one who thinks it is ok to lie and say you can also do it for other reasons.

1 Co 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency

If you believe the Bible you believe that man shall believe EVERY WORD of God, not whatever Blueskuy thinks in her own mind. NO WHERE DOES IT SAY WHAT YOU SAID.

God Himself made the birth cycle in a woman where she can only become pregnant when she ovulates.

Once again, being carnally minded.

Again, the New Testament does not give any command that couples have children. The issue is not brought up in any context.

AND THIS IS YOUR DEFENSE... IT does not say it in the New Testament. WHAT DID JESUS CHRIST SAY IN THE NEW TESTAMENT?

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING WAS WRITTEN IN THE OLD TESTAMENT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS DISANNULED BECAUSE IT IS NOT MENTIONED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, WHAT WAS WRITTEN SHALL IN NO WISE PASS!!!! JESUS CHRIST SAID THAT HIMSELF!!!

Joh 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
Joh 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

Jesus Christ NEVER told people not to ignore what was written in the old testament. So you have to believe what it stated before. Be fruitful and multiply. Thats clear and easy to understand.


Now as for that lies u put out about Isaiah.

Isa 60:22 A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the LORD will hasten it in his time.

It does not saya clan or a small group, it says 1 shall become a thousand. And YES it means children. (Hosea 1:10) No where did it say ANYTHING about that meaning something spiritual.

Now to finish this.

One cannot assume that a child wiull be produced every year, why not? Becuase in order for a child to LIVE it MUST have a soul. Can a woman create a soul? No, can a man create a soul? NO!!! Who does? God. So who is the one that actually creates the child?

Jer 1:4 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

If a woman has 14 children thats becuase they were given to her by God, not because her body produced it on her own.

If a woman has 1 CHILD. Thats becuase God gave her 1 child and not for any other reason. Once again

Gen 30:1 And when Rachel saw that she bare Jacob no children, Rachel envied her sister; and said unto Jacob, Give me children, or else I die.
Gen 30:2 And Jacob's anger was kindled against Rachel: and he said, Am I in God's stead, who hath withheld from thee the fruit of the womb?

The BIBLE is telling you right here that God wasn't allowing her to have children. It had nothing to do with her ovulation. And later on God gave her children.

Gen 30:22 And God remembered Rachel, and God hearkened to her, and opened her womb.

KNOWING ALL OF THIS, you cannot assume that everyone WILL have 30 children. You only have as much as he ordains for you to have. And if HE gives you children you can take care of them. (1 cor 10:13).

A Carnall mind cannot comprehend that.

Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

If all you want to acknowledge is what you think the Body does and not what God does with the Body then you DO NOT please God.

-Weapon of Israel.

[bluesky]

Weapon-- Please if you are going to "school" me about the bible please tell the biblical story in it's entirety not a scripture here, a scripture there just to make your point. However, with that being said as I am tired of arguing this issue not because it's not important but rather you read what you want to read and comment on what you want to comment on so that you can prove your point, twist my version, or even manipulate with word play.

However, dear friend, truth be known as usual one is always talking about what the text says; as long as one doesn't get down to what it means, it never really bothers you. I am not naivee as to have one "preach" the bible to me and not challenge "the so called teaching" or rather accept their explanation because you say "I say it is what is it" but rather I can read and understand for myself (I see the hurl of insults now). Sorry but even with you saying it's in the bible you are still interpeting to undrestand the truth. There may be others in which you can throw "biblical spears" but I will not be intimidated.

1 Tim 6
3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

Matt 15
14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

p.s. We won't see eye to eye on this--so I'm moving on to new topics. If you must have the last word (as I am assured you will) please do. You can have the post forum wrap up. :whistling

@All--They will use many good words and with fine and emotional speeches. The goal is to deceive the hearts of the simple and the gullible. What about you reader, are you deceived by a false teacher?

[Weapon_of_Israel]

If you must have the last word (as I am assured you will) please do. You can have the post forum wrap up.

I will. Thank you.

The BIBLE tells you HOW to examine someone to make sure that they are telling the truth or not. Your words mean nothing. God's word means everything, and am I a false preacher according to God's word?

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

If you do not speak according to BOTH the law and the testimony then you are NOT of God. It is evident in your post that you denied the law, trying to state that the answer was no where in the "new testament."

In addition the points that you were making were points that came out of your own mind, and were NOT in the bible.

1Pe 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God;...

The oracles of God is also known as the BIBLE (Acts 7:37-38) you are supposed to speak ACCORDING TO the Bible, that means if ANYONE decides to come with any type of doctrine saying ANYTHING about you not taking the Bible literally and using your own logic as opposed to following what is WRITTEN, THAT PERSON is not of God, and it is THAT person who is proud.

I wanted to shed some more light on the topic of whether or not something is wrong just because it violates your own conscience.

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

You can not know if something is a sin unless you go according to the Word.

Lastly,

Rom 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
Rom 3:2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

-Weapon of Israel

Originally Posted by bluesky

Team Working on Birth Control for Men


"Obviously, the goal is 100 percent effectiveness," Tash said. "The female pill is 95 to 99 percent effective. We hope to at least meet that level."



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I have several questions for both men and women (a birth contorl pill take away the side effects).

1. Do you think this is a good idea? bad idea? don't care ect?

2. Are men be responsible to remember the take the pill daily or go to doc appts for the shots?

3. Do you think that men will as stated in the article "Some men would like to share more in that responsibility." thus assisting in the prevention of unplanned pregnancies?

4. As a man, would you take the "pill, shot" birth control? or as a woman would you be ok with your partner taking birth control?

1.good idea...... 2. shot would be& yes...... 3. yes........ 4. yes....but im getting snipped...... but could you imagine how weird it might feel, getting in the mood, then tellin a woman *dont trip MA, Im on the pill,, or talking to the boys, about how the shot makes you gain weight..*hey Homie, do I look bloated to you?!?* LOL too much I know!

Originally Posted by jamesfrmphilly

i have had that birth control drug for years now.
it's called noassatall.

OMGthats good

[Voluptuous Miss]

That was good

I never understood why some men wouldn't be more careful, I mean, why wouldn't you want to assume more responsibility? Men can be just as responsible by making sure they wear a "raincoat" so nobody catches a "cold" or a baby.