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Old May 12th, 2008, 12:12 PM   #61 (permalink)
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funny, the presidential candidate most blacks are supporting doesn't have a history or agenda to address any of these....oh and he's 1/2 black!
Chuck:

Good morning, Dblack...

But, there's always a danger, if one's cynicism and dislike of a person winds up characterizing your chosen approach to how you even air your positions, etc., may well undermine your wake up calls, and become a turnoff for others?

Instead:

Like I said and wrote before?

What is needed is present day social and political consciousness raising among our people!

First of all:

Are most (if not all) of them truly aware of how the (conventional) political process works?

My guess would be:

No...

Instead:

What did and does matter (which even I admit having only gotten hip to during the Gore bid)?

If you are a participant in the process as a party member!

It is more or less, i. e., on the basis of which registered party members chose as delegates, that is what determines who becomes their (not our) nominee...

Etc.

Though what was and is pretty revealing is how some of the movers and shakers of both parties refused to even let party's elected state officials digress one bit from the way things have been done for ages!

Why indeed are the delegates of New Hampshire more important (than say the ones in Michigan)?

So a few did make their point(s) pretty clear to the members of their two parties as well awhile back:

"Do it our way (or no way)!"

My and the and more to the point?

What we aren't a part of we don't have a say so over!

So, all of this chatter about that reveals how many don't realize and recognize just how far we will have to achieve true equality, both as have nots and nonwhites; which those who are neither and have nothing in common with us, other than us and them merely being citizens of the same nation...

Hence just being here doesn't in and of itself empower any of us!

So we must find the means and ways to empower ourselves!!

Facts are facts:

It's like that...

And that's the way it is...

FYI...

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 What is education?
Old June 7th, 2008, 09:10 PM   #62 (permalink)
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What is education?

I searched this thread for "educa" and got lots of hits.

I searched it for "techno" and got none.

I find that a little surprising since we are using the technology of computers to communicate asynchronously over the internet. I got hits for history though.

I think the number one lesson of history for the last 500 years has been that people with technology can do whatever they want to people without technology and the people without technology can't do a damn thing about it. Imagine what would have happened if Christopher Columbus had been sailing up to the shores of what we now call America and standing on the beach were Geronimo and Sitting Bull with AK-47s. In that alternate history this would not be called America.

Who says you need school for education? The right books help a lot.

Teach Yourself Electricity and Electronics by Stan Gibilisco
The Electricity

The Art of Electronics by Horowitz & Hill
The Art

Getting through 500 pages of the 1st book will get someone ready for the second.

Education is paying White people to dribble out information as slowly as possible. That first book has info on page 75 that I didn't get until 4th semester at an engineering school. College was cheap back then, only $1100 per semester. Last time I checked it was $27,000 per year. That first book is $35.

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Old June 9th, 2008, 09:07 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Thanks for this list it is on point.Do you mind if I post it on another board that I am on?Peace
 
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Old June 9th, 2008, 10:49 AM   #64 (permalink)
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I think the number one lesson of history for the last 500 years has been that people with technology can do whatever they want to people without technology and the people without technology can't do a damn thing about it. Imagine what would have happened if Christopher Columbus had been sailing up to the shores of what we now call America and standing on the beach were Geronimo and Sitting Bull with AK-47s. In that alternate history this would not be called America.
Education is a tool which can be used constructively or destructively. Europe is so technologically "advanced" [ak-47s, Smith and Wesson, Abrams M1 tanks, death star surveillance satellites] because European education is focused upon destructive technology. It is a good thing, not a bad thing, that non-white people are less focused upon militaristic technology.

The day will come, and is not far off, when the oil that is the life blood of Europe's war machine will dry up. If homo sapiens is to survive as a species, it will not be due to European techno-crazy. If homo sapiens is to survive, it will be due to the wisdom of saner cultures, such as that of those native Americans who have managed not to become bingo/casino whores --- those who focus on Self Realization rather than Gross Materialism.

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Old June 9th, 2008, 12:31 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Thanks for this list it is on point.Do you mind if I post it on another board that I am on?Peace
Copy it wherever you want.

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Education is a tool which can be used constructively or destructively.
Knowledge is a tool. Education is a method of getting it.

The trouble is too many people think education is something that only happens in school.

There are lots of different types of knowledge and lots of different ways of applying it. But letting some people have more knowledge than you in some areas is asking for trouble.

The truly hilarious thing is that you don't hear White people saying that accounting should be mandatory for all of the White kids. Double-entry accounting is 700 years old. How hard can it be?

Fifth graders can learn accounting as well as collegians

Look at how powerful the computers are now. These high resolution computer games need far more processing power than accounting. But no one says everybody should know how to do accounting on their computers. The economic power games depend on keeping most people ignorant. Including most of the White people.

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Old June 9th, 2008, 02:48 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Imagine what our world would be like today if, back when I was a kid [five decades ago], public schools had taught the oneness of all beings and the futility of war with the same vigor we kids were taught to pledge allegiance to the flag and to pray for God to bless american and to prepare to get a good paying job working for somebody else with twice our social connections but only half our cognitive skills.
 
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Old June 9th, 2008, 06:23 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Imagine what our world would be like today if, back when I was a kid [five decades ago], public schools had taught the oneness of all beings and the futility of war with the same vigor we kids were taught to pledge allegiance to the flag and to pray for God to bless american and to prepare to get a good paying job working for somebody else with twice our social connections but only half our cognitive skills.
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Imagine what our world would be like today if, back when I was a kid [five decades ago], public schools had taught the oneness of all beings and the futility of war with the same vigor we kids were taught to pledge allegiance to the flag and to pray for God to bless american and to prepare to get a good paying job working for somebody else with twice our social connections but only half our cognitive skills.
People won't teach what they don't believe themselves.

I have been communicating with a socialist in Sweden. He objects to the idea of mandatory accounting because he says the mathematics would make the kids think that capitalism was logical.

Now if capitalists are ripping people off because they don't know accounting then he is helping the capitalists by advocating ignorance.

Since I think people that run the system are going to oppose changes within the system I mostly talk about mandatory accounting to get people to think about it and consider it important. I've had one high school kid tell me he was going to take a course in it because of what I said. I don't even know if my high school had an accounting course back in the day. No one ever suggested it to me. The school collected tuition and payed teachers and electric bills, etc., etc. so presumably someone there knew it.

It should be like riding a bicycle. May not do it as well as a professional but know enough to get around. Suppose Malcolm X and MLK had suggested all Black kids should know accounting. Would so many Black people be getting foreclosed today? but anyone can get a used computer for $200 more powerful than anything corporations could buy in the 60s. They used tht antiquated junk to do accounting.

What has Jesse Jackson said about it? Isn't he a millionaire?

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