The Ten Biggest Problems Facing African-Americans Today

[MadameX]

Originally Posted by DBlack

but no time for Tavis Smiley, NAACP, etc.....

Disgraceful!

True enough. I'll give you that point Brotha D. Of course, Hillary made appearances. But, that still doesn't make her look any better in my eyes.

Now, at the end of the day, we can't forget that the job of a politician is to look good at lying. So Nevertheless, its all good theater and history in the making. Sad but true.

[dtownbro]

Originally Posted by JABOOM

Do what you will with it, I got this from a friend of mine elsewhere.

This is info that needs to be talked about and understood by OUR people in order for US to make any advancements in this world.

DTB:

Good afternoon, Jaboon...

But, in all due candor and honesty, we're get nowhere using white extremist takes on us and our issues and problems as the backdrop for our ongoing discussions and debates as regards what to do about such things...

Instead:

What have the usual black mainstream organizations, i. e., the NAACP, etc., said and written about the state of the Black Nation, lately?

You tell me!

When you or somebody else is able and willing to do so:

Then the rest of us will be more than able and willing to let you know how we feel and think...

You already know and understand what I feel and think about our enemies takes...

FYI...

Later...

[dtownbro]

Let us get back to what the original intent and purpose this thread was and is about...

FYI...

[dtownbro]

Good afternoon, young bruh...

And, since I too have went to the site, one can guess any number of black thinkers etc. had already blasted such doubletalk, when it was originally posted, way back in 2002!

Ditto to Jaboom:

What led to you reposting stuff like that on a pro black forum?

I'm guessing more than just this inquiring mind would like to know...

FYI...

Later...

Originally Posted by Juice.

Hate to break it to y'all, but the article you're praising was written for an anti-Black, anti-Islamic, anti-minority website run by a right-winged Jew named David Horowitz.
See for yourself: FrontPage Magazine

The only two I slightly agree with are #1 and #5.

Sure the lack of opportunity is killing, not only poor Blacks, but the entire lower class as America continues to prove how little it believes in its "equal opportunities/Anyone can make it if they work hard" pipe dream by outsourcing jobs and not providing any realistic way to climb the economic ladder. But that epidemic isn't attributable to "liberal mayors", and neither is the crime problem cited in the article. Drug related crime isn't typical of Black communities alone, it is a national problem that needs to be addressed. You have Mexican drug dealers murdering each other in Los Angeles, Cuban drug dealers murdering each other in Miami, and Black drug dealers murdering each other in Baltimore, why are Blacks singled out?

As for the educational system - I agree that the educational system is horribly broken, but the problem lies deeper. Being educated in the American system does not secure success and it only reinforces the false beliefs we're being fed as Black people. Black children are being made to believe that their people made no advances prior to the slave trade. Formal education is designed to crush the hearts of many of the future intellectuals who would be more than willing to put paid to the current system. And what motivates the poor child is void in the classroom.

Scholars on the subject of education, already know that what is most important for a child's, or young adult's, development is the social circumstances outside of school. This includes the homelife. It includes the life that the children and adolescents see transpiring around them on the streets. The learning really takes place in the school yard, rather than in the classroom.

None of my words are to refute that Blacks are underachieving. But we must look at all the reasons why they are not living up to their potential. It's easy to throw the blame upon those who are being oppressed and claim that Blacks are "anti-intellectual". Blacks most definitely should strive to be educated. But then we need to analyze what education actually is.

And how can "Jaboom" say that this garbage article is necessary to the upliftment of out people? The words you read in this article can be heard in any area that Blacks congregate, it's nothing new. It's fine to say to the Black guy: get an education, take care of your kids, stop sellin' on the corner, get a job; but if society makes is extremely difficult to do any of those things, who is to blame?

Couple that with the fact that the negatives of Black men are hunted out and publicized at every opportunity, and we have the manufacture of inferiority complexes. The hardest way to make something believe something is to prove it. The easiest way, as the media and television know so well, is to simply repeat the unprovable at every opportunity. The average person is influenceable and buys the garbage the media and television are selling.

Fortunately, some of us are raised to be more enlightened.

[DBlack]

Originally Posted by MadameX

True enough. I'll give you that point Brotha D. Of course, Hillary made appearances. But, that still doesn't make her look any better in my eyes.

Now, at the end of the day, we can't forget that the job of a politician is to look good at lying. So Nevertheless, its all good theater and history in the making. Sad but true.

I don't understand why not. The first step to positive progress is for leaders to be willing to listen. At least Hillary took that step. Obama is clearly concerned with appeasing the white collective because that's where the votes and power lies, and that's his base constituency. Being black is merely an occasional convenience for him.

[MadameX]

Originally Posted by DBlack

I don't understand why not.

Neither do I Brotha D.

Originally Posted by DBlack

The first step to positive progress is for leaders to be willing to listen. At least Hillary took that step.

True enough. You've got a point there. Of course, like her husband slick Willie, they'll say one thing and mean another behind closed doors as we all know. That's why she wasn't so quick to dismiss Farrarro's comments.

Like I said before, the job of politician is politicking, nothing more, nothing less. At the end of the day,politics is the American way & its all good theater especially when take in the consideration how NY Governor's putting it down just within the few weeks of office(dirty laundry galore).

[Samoon]

"Hey sis, can you give me the source of this article?"

@ The Dragon:

The authors would be myself and a comrade.

[Samoon]

Originally Posted by DBlack

Samoon, please, give us a break with the obama misinformation. Make the case for Obama, instead of spending so much time talking about the opponent. That is a tired and weak method of debate.

Obama, by his very actions and misactions is not an agent of change.

• Obama is a hypocritical apologist
• Obama is corrupt, with ties to criminal behavior
• Obama has a drug history
• Obama has no record of making CHANGE
• Obama receiving campaign contributions from same sources as Hillary
• Obama has REPEATEDLY sold out black leaders, organizations and even personal affiliates.
• Obama has avoided making critical votes FOR CHANGE over a hundred times.
• Obama IS an UncleTom.
• Obama does not represent black people.
• Obama represents those who either want to be white, are white, or be accepted by whites.
• Obama supports open borders - which will hurt black jobs
• Obama supports illegal amnesty - which will hurt eduction and black communiti9es
• Obama supports the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan - He voted repeatedly for the wars.
• Obama ONLY opposed the war in voice - when he came out against the war, he was not a senator and could not vote on the war.

I think you get the point. Is Hillary or McCain any better, no. But my point is, we need to stop with the RHETORIC and start talking about substance.

If you are an Obama supporter, more power to you. But stop abusing the words CHANGE and HOPE when there is no credible evidence that such is even remotely possible with Obama. We all deserve honest debate and discussion, not retarded propaganda.

WHO died and made YOU God, brotha? I do not tell you how to present your "opinion." Please do not instruct or tell ME how to present as well. Watch your words...."retarded" is a personal attack. I do NOT take kindly to personal attacks--I give as good as I receive 'em. But I won't go there, at least not today. I don't give a rat's arse if you ARE the Administrator of this site, "treat others with "words" in the same manner of dignity and respect that you want to be treated." Period.

And if it is any indication by your "bullet" points above? I'd state (with an unbiased opinion) that you are trying a bit too hard in illustrating YOUR distain for Obama as well as to "influence" others in why this candidate should not be supported. Or is it just me......(laughing on my way outta this thread!)

Black? Stop it. Give it up.

[jimihaze]

Question? are either clinton or mccain any more credible than obama when it comes to hope and change? Another question are you saying that obama is not black enough and that he has no right to run for president? are you saying the george w. bush has more experience than obama?

[Istlota]

Originally Posted by jimihaze

Question? are either clinton or mccain any more credible than obama when it comes to hope and change?

No, but you need to seriously ask yourself is that really a rational, responsible, method to pick the next "leader of the free world"?

If Curly, Moe, and Larry were running, would you settle for voting for the lesser of three evils [Moe]?



Or, would you throw your hands up in the air and concede that, no matter which of the three stooges end up in the white house, we never had a choice. All we had was a small cabal of rich and influential white men who began the process by narrowing down our "choice" to three people, three stooges, all of whom could be counted on to do what ever they, the aformentioned cabal, told them to do.

There is no choice for 2008, other than to vote for someone who has no chance in hell of winning [third party], or Curly, or Larry, or Moe.