Is it good or bad to donate to Salvation Army?

[afrocentric]

Originally Posted by Ukali

I stopped supporting the Red Cross because of the many scandals within this organization. This includes the recent firing of its Chief Executive Officer for alledgedly having an affair with a subordinate employee.

just from reading the first article that you have posted it goes to show that you can't trust that particular individual or anyone like her. you can't speak for all for all of them. red cross have helped a lot of people. when my house caught on fire, red cross stepped up and helped me and my children find a new house and gave us new furnitures to start off with.

now as far as the secound article goes. what person don't have an affair on their jobs? there are church pastors having affairs with choir directors and they are supposed to be setting an example by serving the community. even though we have a choice to leave and go somewhere else we still shouldn't let their mishap stop us from doing good for others.

[afrocentric]

Originally Posted by BuTtErPeCaN

That's horrible but now that I think of it, you are absolutely right...just thinking about the ridiculous prices for junk at Goodwill and Salvation Army.

now i have bought good things from the goodwill and salvation army that was reasonable and updated. some things are overly priced but you can get it knocked down by the manager if they are there to reason with you.

[robbboy2003]

Originally Posted by Moorfius

Hotep

Ware was the salvation when we were being "Lynced" ?

Ware was the salvation when we were being "Stripped" of every thing human ?
Ware was the salvation when we worked from sun up to sun down?

Ware is our "Salvation" today?? Ware is our Black Sanctuary on this earth today ??

The Salvation Army has nothing what so ever to do with "African Liberation" !!

Does the so-called Americans Indians feel that they should donate to this Salvation Army?
Do the Japanese donate to this Salvation Army?
Do the other Oppressed peoples of the Earth give donate...and receive and such thing as..."Salvation"??

To each his and her own...life is all about choices. Why not give in the name of "Liberation" from oppresion, raceism, perversion, vice and murder of Black Self under the watch of the system of white superimacy...that is the worse thing in the known Universe?

First love, honor, respect your black ancestors and your black self and give something or better yet... give everything to your "Own" black Salvation Army that only fights to win your Afrikan Liberation.

People know Thy Self

Ase`

Had to respond to this about the Japanese. Have some relatives (wifes side) who are fanatics about giving to the salvation army. And you know brotha quite a few of us had a few ancestors share some things with several tribes of native Americans. We all just choose not to hammer and blast that part of our ancestry all the time. It is a part of us and fact from Black Foot to red Cherokee we's got some Injun's in the DNA.

I give to the Salvation Army and volunteer with them,as do the fam. They've personally stood in the gap,when noone else would in my life. Peace Out!

[robbboy2003]

Originally Posted by Istlota

Because I don't care much one way or the other about money, I have given thousands of dollars to charities in the past, including a lump sum of $5000 to a local homeless shelter. But, about a year after that, I went thru a period where I thought I was going to be homeless and my eyes were really opened.

The shelter I donated $5000 to? With no strings attached? A couple of weeks before I thought I would be homeless, I contacted them asking what they could to help a brother out. The only thing they could do for me was to give me a spot on their cafeteria floor and a blanket to spread on that floor to sleep on --- maybe. And, I would have to leave in the morning, taking all my belongings with me --- which is why you see homeless people during the day carrying garbage bags or pushing a cart. Even if they can get into a shelter, the shelter will not let them stay there all day, nor let them store their few belongings there.

It did not take a genius IQ for me to figure out that the shelter's homeless people would have been _MUCH_ better off if people like me gave our $5000 donations directly to homeless people, rather than to their shelters.

You know why homeless people always sell like pee? Most of them hang out downtown because that is where the shelters are. But, the shelters kick them out in the morning and there are no unlocked public bathrooms downtown -- except at the library - which is why, if you go to any downtown library in any major city, you will find homeless people hanging around outside or inside.

To qualify to receive help from the shelter, I would have had to agree to stand on a corner several hours a day begging for donations. Now, just think about the implications of that:

• Having to stand on a street corner restricts your ability to go out looking for a job, which increases the likelihood that you will remain homeless, which ensures that you will be out there on that corner, like every other good ho, day after day, making money that you just turn around and hand over to your pimp. And, just like with pimps, the shelter does not pay taxes on that money.
• Don't even think about getting paid for the time you spend standing on a corner begging for donations for the shelter. The shelter will let you keep just enough of the money you collect to be able to run over to the 7/11 from time to time and buy a coke and a sandwich. This is not done as a gift to the homeless person, but rather provides a legal loophole to avoid having to pay the homeless person a minimum wage while also avoiding the embaressment of a shelter's homeless people collapsing in the street and being run over by passing vehicles.

The shelter works with the state to humiliate the homeless person. I agree with a previous participant here. Donate to _individuals_, not to charities.

All the fore mentioned above brotha duly noted,but did you get better prospects from some other charity? I'm a ogre (meaning a mad Black Sob much of the time) But this humiliation,as you call it may have been the motivation,that a person needed to never ever ever be in this situation again.

I've been there with my carry bag before between breaks in the military. Working and still homeless. I know it well. As much as i hate the thought of having to go through,that sh*t in my life. I still want to volunteer and give back to my fellow vets in the rooms and kitchens. I guess i'm just an old ornery sob,that likes their company preferable,than phoney arse and fake masons,and shriners that don't reach,or come back. I don't delve into the politics of the salvation army,but i kinda care for the peeps.

Just like my little zoo of children over the years. I's a angry Black man,but i remember a scared and homeless child and too be honest i'm still scared to this day,that's part of the reason. I have to give back to both places young and old. I like to look at things from the perspective of your calling,and mine is fellowship with my elders and youth. Alright, as you were. The old punch drunk fighter is through rambling now! Peace Out!

[MadameX]

Originally Posted by robbboy2003

They've personally stood in the gap,when noone else would in my life.

Exactly. And that's on the real tip.