Is it good or bad to donate to Salvation Army?

[natirnr]

....Long before FEMA, and saved many lives.

[Moorfius]

Hotep

Ware was the salvation when we were being "Lynced" ?

Ware was the salvation when we were being "Stripped" of every thing human ?
Ware was the salvation when we worked from sun up to sun down?

Ware is our "Salvation" today?? Ware is our Black Sanctuary on this earth today ??

The Salvation Army has nothing what so ever to do with "African Liberation" !!

Does the so-called Americans Indians feel that they should donate to this Salvation Army?
Do the Japanese donate to this Salvation Army?
Do the other Oppressed peoples of the Earth give donate...and receive and such thing as..."Salvation"??

To each his and her own...life is all about choices. Why not give in the name of "Liberation" from oppresion, raceism, perversion, vice and murder of Black Self under the watch of the system of white superimacy...that is the worse thing in the known Universe?

First love, honor, respect your black ancestors and your black self and give something or better yet... give everything to your "Own" black Salvation Army that only fights to win your Afrikan Liberation.

People know Thy Self

Ase`

[Istlota]

Because I don't care much one way or the other about money, I have given thousands of dollars to charities in the past, including a lump sum of $5000 to a local homeless shelter. But, about a year after that, I went thru a period where I thought I was going to be homeless and my eyes were really opened.

The shelter I donated $5000 to? With no strings attached? A couple of weeks before I thought I would be homeless, I contacted them asking what they could to help a brother out. The only thing they could do for me was to give me a spot on their cafeteria floor and a blanket to spread on that floor to sleep on --- maybe. And, I would have to leave in the morning, taking all my belongings with me --- which is why you see homeless people during the day carrying garbage bags or pushing a cart. Even if they can get into a shelter, the shelter will not let them stay there all day, nor let them store their few belongings there.

It did not take a genius IQ for me to figure out that the shelter's homeless people would have been _MUCH_ better off if people like me gave our $5000 donations directly to homeless people, rather than to their shelters.

You know why homeless people always sell like pee? Most of them hang out downtown because that is where the shelters are. But, the shelters kick them out in the morning and there are no unlocked public bathrooms downtown -- except at the library - which is why, if you go to any downtown library in any major city, you will find homeless people hanging around outside or inside.

To qualify to receive help from the shelter, I would have had to agree to stand on a corner several hours a day begging for donations. Now, just think about the implications of that:

• Having to stand on a street corner restricts your ability to go out looking for a job, which increases the likelihood that you will remain homeless, which ensures that you will be out there on that corner, like every other good ho, day after day, making money that you just turn around and hand over to your pimp. And, just like with pimps, the shelter does not pay taxes on that money.
• Don't even think about getting paid for the time you spend standing on a corner begging for donations for the shelter. The shelter will let you keep just enough of the money you collect to be able to run over to the 7/11 from time to time and buy a coke and a sandwich. This is not done as a gift to the homeless person, but rather provides a legal loophole to avoid having to pay the homeless person a minimum wage while also avoiding the embaressment of a shelter's homeless people collapsing in the street and being run over by passing vehicles.

The shelter works with the state to humiliate the homeless person. I agree with a previous participant here. Donate to _individuals_, not to charities.

[sephari]

Originally Posted by Istlota

Because I don't care much one way or the other about money, I have given thousands of dollars to charities in the past, including a lump sum of $5000 to a local homeless shelter. But, about a year after that, I went thru a period where I thought I was going to be homeless and my eyes were really opened.

The shelter I donated $5000 to? With no strings attached? A couple of weeks before I thought I would be homeless, I contacted them asking what they could to help a brother out. The only thing they could do for me was to give me a spot on their cafeteria floor and a blanket to spread on that floor to sleep on --- maybe. And, I would have to leave in the morning, taking all my belongings with me --- which is why you see homeless people during the day carrying garbage bags or pushing a cart. Even if they can get into a shelter, the shelter will not let them stay there all day, nor let them store their few belongings there.

It did not take a genius IQ for me to figure out that the shelter's homeless people would have been _MUCH_ better off if people like me gave our $5000 donations directly to homeless people, rather than to their shelters.

You know why homeless people always sell like pee? Most of them hang out downtown because that is where the shelters are. But, the shelters kick them out in the morning and there are no unlocked public bathrooms downtown -- except at the library - which is why, if you go to any downtown library in any major city, you will find homeless people hanging around outside or inside.

To qualify to receive help from the shelter, I would have had to agree to stand on a corner several hours a day begging for donations. Now, just think about the implications of that:

• Having to stand on a street corner restricts your ability to go out looking for a job, which increases the likelihood that you will remain homeless, which ensures that you will be out there on that corner, like every other good ho, day after day, making money that you just turn around and hand over to your pimp. And, just like with pimps, the shelter does not pay taxes on that money.
• Don't even think about getting paid for the time you spend standing on a corner begging for donations for the shelter. The shelter will let you keep just enough of the money you collect to be able to run over to the 7/11 from time to time and buy a coke and a sandwich. This is not done as a gift to the homeless person, but rather provides a legal loophole to avoid having to pay the homeless person a minimum wage while also avoiding the embaressment of a shelter's homeless people collapsing in the street and being run over by passing vehicles.

The shelter works with the state to humiliate the homeless person. I agree with a previous participant here. Donate to _individuals_, not to charities.

oh this is some stinky sh...

[Samoon]

Originally Posted by afrocentric

Do you give to the Salvation Army? When you see those bell ringers for the Salvation Army, do you stop and give up your last change or do you just keep walking? Do you think that they are for real? Do they really help those in need? An inquiring mind needs to know.

I do not trust them---I caught the clue with the, "We are the World" album (do they still make THOSE....lol!) that featured Mikey Jackson and various artists. The proceeds WERE supposed to make it to the Motherland, over HALF as I understand it, did not. The same scenario with post Hurricane Katrina.

GREED will always be factored into organizations such as this one, Feed the Children, UNICEF, etc. And annual reports can be fabricated as well.

[MadameX]

Originally Posted by Samoon

GREED will always be factored into organizations such as this one, Feed the Children, UNICEF, etc. And annual reports can be fabricated as well.

True. Of course, this could be said for any so called charity organization because greedy low down muthasuckas could be anywhere in any organization trying to taking advantage of those in need. That's why they say if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself (or over see/organize it at least). And for those Grassroots Organizations/Individuals that have stepped out there and helped unselfishly, I applaud their efforts.

[BuTtErPeCaN]

Originally Posted by sephari

NEVER EVER DONATE CLOTHES TO CHARITIES!!

those bastids export all of the free clothing that is donated to them and sell it in africa for prices that the local garment industries can't compete with. thousands of people have lost their jobs because of these so-called charities.

That's horrible but now that I think of it, you are absolutely right...just thinking about the ridiculous prices for junk at Goodwill and Salvation Army.

[Its Ok 2 B Quiet]

I tend to keep walking because I don't totally trust the institution....now I do give them clothing that I no longer wear (as an immediate solution). Honestly, I would prefer to give them to some organization that could give them away for free to someone who could use them though. I just need to make the time to find them.

[Sasori]

I don't have a problem with it, but if you don't want to donate to that organization, you could use your charity in more direct areas in your community.

For example, my donations go primarily to Recreation Centers and programs, Soup kitchens, Homeless shelters, and battered spouse programs.

Even though the Red Cross allows you to choose the program in which you donate, most of your donation anyway first goes through its administration and then what's left over goes to the cause of your choosing... That is why I always seek a way to donate directly...

[afrocentric]

The shelter works with the state to humiliate the homeless person. I agree with a previous participant here. Donate to _individuals_, not to charities.

im sorry about your experience with the shelter. i'm agreeing with sephari,.....that is some stinking sh**. i will start donating to individuals from here on out. thanks for the advice.

i did it once before. this lady who lives across the street from me has 5 children.. 4 girls and 1 boy. well, my man came home from work oneday with a bunch of girl clothes that someone had given him to give to his daughter but it was too big for my baby girl, so i thought about the lady across the street and sent the clothes over there. 3 weeks later, some one gave my baby girl some clothes. so i quess it was God blessing me back for what i did for the lady across the street.