I am a Black separatist because....?

[Istlota]

What is far more important than picking a mate based on their race is picking a mate based on similar goals and values. Even those of us who want our kids to marry black would be deeply dissapointed if they ended up with someone like J. C. Watts or Condi Rice.

If you are focused on ending White Supremacy, then pick a mate with the same goal. You would be much happier, and a much more effective Afrikan warrior, married to a white partner who thinks like Michael Bradley than a black partner who thinks like J. C. Watts.

[The Dragon]

Gorilla I don't believe race really exists either but it seems to be the issue with interracial dating. And, you've made it a point that you desire racial homogeneity but you believe that race does not exist?

Yes, race does not exist. Cultural continuity do. We are not even discussing IR dating here anyway.

Examples of cultures that span across race and continue to pass down their culture: South America has plenty of examples. You can classify whether or not they're "hell bent on mixing" on your own.

A lot of South American cultures have been "mixed" by default and they still have their indivdual cultures, ie El Salvador, Colombia, Belize, etc...

I guess pigeonholing people, interracial couples for genuine reasons, their resulting children (which are really a low percentage), and holding onto out dated notions are much easier than doing any real work.

Real work like what? Reread my original post, start over again and go from there.

Its been interesting, as always.

It's even more interesting when one can stay on topic. It is hard explaing cultural survival and annilhilation to a people who never had one in the first place. I don't expect some Black folks to understand where I am coming from.

[The Dragon]

Originally Posted by Istlota

What is far more important than picking a mate based on their race is picking a mate based on similar goals and values. Even those of us who want our kids to marry black would be deeply dissapointed if they ended up with someone like J. C. Watts or Condi Rice.

If you are focused on ending White Supremacy, then pick a mate with the same goal. You would be much happier, and a much more effective Afrikan warrior, married to a white partner who thinks like Michael Bradley than a black partner who thinks like J. C. Watts.

Black folks can't have the same goals and values? If you choose to date exclusively with other Black people your more likely to end up dissapointed?

So picking a white mate "with the same goals" will end white supremacy????

[The Dragon]

Real Black men know that Black women belong to THEM.

[afrocentric]

Originally Posted by The Dragon

Black folks can't have the same goals and values? If you choose to date exclusively with other Black people your more likely to end up dissapointed?

So picking a white mate "with the same goals" will end white supremacy????

yes, dragon he said it and i'm clueless too...

[Istlota]

Originally Posted by The Dragon

Real Black men know that Black women belong to THEM.

I guess somebody must have forgot to tell my ex about that.

Or, then again, maybe not. She did do her best to belong to as many real black men as was physically possible.

[Lediamand]

Originally Posted by The Dragon

Real Black men know that Black women belong to THEM.

I concur, if Black men don'tdate our sista who have a bunch of bad stereotypes put on to them who will. Only Brothas can deal with real Sistas and know how to get with them.

[Gorilla]

Yes, race does not exist. Cultural continuity do. We are not even discussing IR dating here anyway.

I was going based on your assertion of a desire of homogeneity to ensure our survival. Because as I said earlier, Race and Culture do not correlate reliably. And we're discussing one of IR dating's main components so it is valid. You can't really address interracial dating without addressing either of those two issues.

A lot of South American cultures have been "mixed" by default and they still have their indivdual cultures, ie El Salvador, Colombia, Belize, etc...

Mixed by default is debatable (we're probably hardly pure as well), because there are a number of variables. But when you allude to some pending cultural annihilation, and also agree that there are South American groups who maintain their culture you immediately form a contradiction in your reasoning. To clearly state the problem, culture can live on without racial homogeneity and again they do not go hand in hand with culture.

There was a genetic study using probably STR mapping method to determine lineage of Black people living in Brazil (Its probably one of the few methods we have to attempt to quantify something so ambiguous).

BBCBrasil.com | Reporter BBC | Genética resgata negros excluídos da história familiar

Plenty of free services out there can translate so you can get the gist of the article. With the article above, and looking at how brazil's Black population maintains different cultural identities and maintain a good deal of cultural diversity gives a pretty good example of what I mean.

Real work like what? Reread my original post, start over again and go from there.

There are some more direct methods and tangible, of course. Patron black business, get your hands dirty volunteering, get involved with your local community, find a cause and get behind it, use whatever talents you can to help improve conditions, start a black library, and any of the countless other sustainable things which lead to true lasting prosperity and and a person can conceive of doing.

I think another poster also tossed out some good options too.

It's even more interesting when one can stay on topic. It is hard explaing cultural survival and annilhilation to a people who never had one in the first place. I don't expect some Black folks to understand where I am coming from.

If anything feels like its off topic, I hope this sums it up. I'm pretty much saying that happiness in a relationship and "cultural survival" really don't line up well with notions of race (in context: interracial dating). I do have one question though. Since when did Black Americans never have a culture? I guess our literature, genres of music, beautiful art work, schools of thought, Universities, neighborhoods and any other expression or tradition I've left out constitute as not having a culture?

I personally find it is quite hard to explain irrational arguments. Best of Luck to you.

[Samoon]

Originally Posted by The Dragon

It would have helped it you gave some valid examples to back up your claims. What group of people maintain culture across notions of "race" which does not exist anyway?

Every other culture values keeping the culture and the people therein "alive" so to speak. That is why most are hell bent against "mixing."

Black folks need to get off this "we are the world," and this "rainbow coalition" crap if we want to survive as a people.

Goshdarnit,Dragon! Speak ON it!

"We shall overcome? The mantra for other races is we shall over-run!" Excellent point!

[Samoon]

Originally Posted by Istlota

I guess somebody must have forgot to tell my ex about that.

Or, then again, maybe not. She did do her best to belong to as many real black men as was physically possible.

Now see? There YOU go, Istlota! The sista's morals may be questionable but at LEAST she was with a brotha, er brothers.