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Old October 17th, 2007, 10:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down Fury at DNA pioneer's theory: Africans are less intelligent than Westerners

Celebrated scientist attacked for race comments: "All our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really"
By Cahal Milmo
Published: 17 October 2007
One of the world's most eminent scientists was embroiled in an extraordinary row last night after he claimed that black people were less intelligent than white people and the idea that "equal powers of reason" were shared across racial groups was a delusion.

James Watson, a Nobel Prize winner for his part in the unravelling of DNA who now runs one of America's leading scientific research institutions, drew widespread condemnation for comments he made ahead of his arrival in Britain today for a speaking tour at venues including the Science Museum in London.

The 79-year-old geneticist reopened the explosive debate about race and science in a newspaper interview in which he said Western policies towards African countries were wrongly based on an assumption that black people were as clever as their white counterparts when "testing" suggested the contrary. He claimed genes responsible for creating differences in human intelligence could be found within a decade.

The newly formed Equality and Human Rights Commission, successor to the Commission for Racial Equality, said it was studying Dr Watson's remarks " in full". Dr Watson told The Sunday Times that he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really". He said there was a natural desire that all human beings should be equal but "people who have to deal with black employees find this not true".

His views are also reflected in a book published next week, in which he writes: "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so."

The furore echoes the controversy created in the 1990s by The Bell Curve, a book co-authored by the American political scientist Charles Murray, which suggested differences in IQ were genetic and discussed the implications of a racial divide in intelligence. The work was heavily criticised across the world, in particular by leading scientists who described it as a work of " scientific racism".

Dr Watson arrives in Britain today for a speaking tour to publicise his latest book, Avoid Boring People: Lessons from a Life in Science. Among his first engagements is a speech to an audience at the Science Museum organised by the Dana Centre, which held a discussion last night on the history of scientific racism.

Critics of Dr Watson said there should be a robust response to his views across the spheres of politics and science. Keith Vaz, the Labour chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, said: "It is sad to see a scientist of such achievement making such baseless, unscientific and extremely offensive comments. I am sure the scientific community will roundly reject what appear to be Dr Watson's personal prejudices.

"These comments serve as a reminder of the attitudes which can still exists at the highest professional levels."

The American scientist earned a place in the history of great scientific breakthroughs of the 20th century when he worked at the University of Cambridge in the 1950s and 1960s and formed part of the team which discovered the structure of DNA. He shared the 1962 Nobel Prize for medicine with his British colleague Francis Crick and New Zealand-born Maurice Wilkins.

But despite serving for 50 years as a director of the Cold Spring Harbour Laboratory on Long Island, considered a world leader in research into cancer and genetics, Dr Watson has frequently courted controversy with some of his views on politics, sexuality and race. The respected journal Science wrote in 1990: "To many in the scientific community, Watson has long been something of a wild man, and his colleagues tend to hold their collective breath whenever he veers from the script."

In 1997, he told a British newspaper that a woman should have the right to abort her unborn child if tests could determine it would be homosexual. He later insisted he was talking about a "hypothetical" choice which could never be applied. He has also suggested a link between skin colour and sex drive, positing the theory that black people have higher libidos, and argued in favour of genetic screening and engineering on the basis that " stupidity" could one day be cured. He has claimed that beauty could be genetically manufactured, saying: "People say it would be terrible if we made all girls pretty. I think it would great."

The Cold Spring Harbour Laboratory said yesterday that Dr Watson could not be contacted to comment on his remarks.

Steven Rose, a professor of biological sciences at the Open University and a founder member of the Society for Social Responsibility in Science, said: " This is Watson at his most scandalous. He has said similar things about women before but I have never heard him get into this racist terrain. If he knew the literature in the subject he would know he was out of his depth scientifically, quite apart from socially and politically."

Anti-racism campaigners called for Dr Watson's remarks to be looked at in the context of racial hatred laws. A spokesman for the 1990 Trust, a black human rights group, said: "It is astonishing that a man of such distinction should make comments that seem to perpetuate racism in this way. It amounts to fuelling bigotry and we would like it to be looked at for grounds of legal complaint."

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Old October 17th, 2007, 10:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Oh, so that explains why the whites are the starters of wars, producers/distributers of drugs, top the lists of serial killers, handle going broke and family problems with mass office shootings, and was too lazy to get their own sorry *** a glass of water so they resorted to slavery.......they are smart, huh. In that case, I'm glad I'm not so smart.
 
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Old October 17th, 2007, 10:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Read the idea he is stating

"Africans are less intelligent than Westerners"

Now aren't we Afrikans in the west????

Call me and many others "less intelligent" and I'll show you what intelligents really is....

The ability to survive hell on a daily, racial hatred, Lack of meaningful and well paying employment, and still can walk with our heads held HIGH!!!

They just to get use to the idea that we a built better than them on every level.......MAINLY IN THE BRAIN DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH RACISM!!!!!!!
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Old October 17th, 2007, 11:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Nothing new here. Racist are obsessed with IQ. Every ten years or so these same loathsome degenerates peddle the same propaganda that has been debunked time and time again. It's all by design. It's to the benefit of the white ruling class to maintain supremacy over our collective detriment by perpetually touting intelligence "deficiencies" between the races.

What these crackers and supporters of the bell curve deliberately fail to mention is they don't know the average IQ only explains what a person has learned in school. These MF's selectively choose to believe IQ tell us about "intelligence" of an individual, not so. IQ tell us very little about a persons societal intelligence. There are numerous factors that determine IQ, especially LEARNING ENVIRONMENT. The "bell curve" has been debunked by various scientist and even laymen. Continental Black Africans are absorbing up many "high intellect" jobs here in amerikkka and even europe. Race has nothing to do with intelligence, social factors and environment has everything to do with it.

Black immigrants from Africa averaged the highest educational attainment of any population group in the country, including whites and Asians.

African Immigrants are the Most Educated

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According to U.S. census data from 2000, “black immigrants from Africa averaged the highest educational attainment of any population group.

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Old October 17th, 2007, 01:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Wow. Its sad to see people are still pounding that eugenic drum so many years after Galton. Thanks for sharing.
 
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but our dicks are bigger, yo.......
 
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Old October 17th, 2007, 03:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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but our dicks are bigger, yo.......

james your being bad.
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No biggie

We just need to educate our youth, to the highest standards and prove them wrong.
BUT LETS BE CLEAR THIS IS DANGEROUS, THOSE WHO HOLD THE PURSE STRINGS BELIEVE THIS WETHER TRUE OR NOT
 
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LOL........... I've never done any extensive studying but, you're probably right!!

This "scientist" had better tell the yt's at my job because they have got to be some of the most uneducated people I've ever worked with. If a Brutha or Sista had there low levels of education, they'd never make it through the interview!
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Nothing new here. Racist are obsessed with IQ. Every ten years or so these same loathsome degenerates peddle the same propaganda that has been debunked time and time again. It's all by design. It's to the benefit of the white ruling class to maintain supremacy over our collective detriment by perpetually touting intelligence "deficiencies" between the races.

What these crackers and supporters of the bell curve deliberately fail to mention is they don't know the average IQ only explains what a person has learned in school. These MF's selectively choose to believe IQ tell us about "intelligence" of an individual, not so. IQ tell us very little about a persons societal intelligence. There are numerous factors that determine IQ, especially LEARNING ENVIRONMENT. The "bell curve" has been debunked by various scientist and even laymen. Continental Black Africans are absorbing up many "high intellect" jobs here in amerikkka and even europe. Race has nothing to do with intelligence, social factors and environment has everything to do with it.

Black immigrants from Africa averaged the highest educational attainment of any population group in the country, including whites and Asians.

African Immigrants are the Most Educated

http://www.unescocenterforpeace.net/...007package.pdf

According to U.S. census data from 2000, “black immigrants from Africa averaged the highest educational attainment of any population group.

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You wanna know what's really sad? Look how much international attention his theories got! The opposers to the "bell curve" nonesense never get as much attention in the mainstream and so most remain ignorant that this bullshyt is constantly being refuted daily. Those findings and statistics you gave will never be a headline on the news...

It also makes me wonder who is funding this research and the agendas behind it all. Regardless of how much scientists rail on and on about their alleged objectivity, there is always some loaded interest in the findings generated by these researchers.
I mean really, you go into a lab and study genetics and just HAPPEN to run across evidence of this mess. Really? You mean to tell me he wasn't looking for such conclusions at all? He didn't already believe this to be true and none of that bias rubbed off into his research? For real?

Yeah the **** right!!! I'm not buying it.

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