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July 26th, 2007, 12:01 PM
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Whats The Most Racist Thing About Today's United States?
I want to see our current views on major racism now and is it collectively different from Whites. For instance are the following major examples of racism?
Not enough Blacks playing proffessional hockey.
Not enough democrats in the government.
The history taught in schools.
Difference in unemployment.
I havent said any of these are in my opinion but am asking for any thoughts on the subject.
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July 26th, 2007, 12:06 PM
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i think it social and economic inequality. let me explain
regardless if you have a masters bachelors phd are a multi millionare living like a king regardless of how hard you strive to make a better way for your family and move the kids into that neighborhood and go to the top schools the whites in that community still look down their nose at you and dont think you deserve to live where they live and have what they have
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July 26th, 2007, 01:37 PM
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If you see my thread in whats the word you will see that many of those factors are a part of the American system.
Like schools with problem kids like in the gettho gets less money cause of it. And rich white kids schools get more money.
In Europe we give the bad schools economical boost to improve their education to fight segregation.
Its the entire American system, the soul of the United States. Its a nation built on slavery, The netherlands never had slavery cause it was inhumane so they dont got getthos.
Its America that is the fault not parts of it, All of it from the beginning.
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July 26th, 2007, 02:02 PM
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Not enough Blacks playing proffessional hockey.
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I think that displays the lack of interest by many black athletes... there are some black Canadians (and even a Jamaican - Kevin Weekes in goal) that play hockey and are pretty good at it.
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July 26th, 2007, 02:20 PM
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the prison industrial complex/judicial system. i hope i don't need to explain that one but if i do, let me know...
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July 26th, 2007, 03:35 PM
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I would argue towards the economy. The meager economic status of minorities in such a rich country is unacceptable. The Katrina disaster was a wake-up call for many in more ways than one. So many people across the world had no idea of the dire poverty many minorities face daily in "the land of the free".
In a land defined by capitalism, we simply aren't getting a big enough slice of the green pie. Hell, they don't even want us to have the crumbs.
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July 26th, 2007, 04:12 PM
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I pretty much agree with all that was said...no need for me to repeat.
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July 27th, 2007, 10:27 AM
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If every Black person was living in a currently middle class home but the percentage of White rich folks was still the same would our thoughts change about this?
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July 29th, 2007, 05:38 AM
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If every Black person was living in a currently middle class home but the percentage of White rich folks was still the same would our thoughts change about this?
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Well yes it would always be something there. People have the need to divide themselves. In the 1940 europe and todays africa there are many races within a race.
Some idiots in africa can kill another brother for being diffrent. Hitler wanted to kill all the polish people cause they where an inferior race after he was done with the jews, today they are both the same white race.
In Japan evereyone belongs to a group, lolita dressing, goth dressing, and the workplace is more efficent cause they are working in a group against other groups.
To make it short, tensions will always bee there cause people need to have groups, its our animal instinct.
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July 29th, 2007, 10:15 AM
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Well yes it would always be something there. People have the need to divide themselves. In the 1940 europe and todays africa there are many races within a race.
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Keep in mind that race is an imaginary construct that is impossible to accurately define -- unless you take the approach of Du Bois and Ani and define it, not by physical characteristics, but commonly held, and defended, cultural values.
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Some idiots in africa can kill another brother for being different.
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These are Africans who have defined themselves according to arbitrary geographical - or, in the case of Rwanda, borderline physiological - or, in the case of Sudan, agrarian vs. nomadic -- boundaries erected by European and/or Arab invaders. It is not based on any sort of primordial animal instinct among Africans. The problem was not always there. It is a learned reflex, one that took several generations, after the Berlin Conference of 1884-1885, to cultivate into what it is today.
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Hitler wanted to kill all the polish people cause they where an inferior race after he was done with the jews, today they are both the same white race.
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Caucasians have a long, distinctly unique, history of this sort of behavior. Other "races" may choose to sit at separate tables for lunch, or grumble about Toms marrying outside their race. But, Caucasians take it to a whole other level with their historically consistent compulsion to kill, destroy, and even erase from history, the Other. If there is an instinctual component to racism it can be found among Caucasians. But, I hasten to add, even with them, there is no conclusive proof of this, only conjecture. Because of their successful attempts to rewrite their own history, we really do not have an adequate historical record of why they came to be the most aggressive, war-like, subgroup among all homo sapiens. I would guess that it has a lot to do with their experience during the last Wurm glaciation. But, again, this is conjecture because there are not written records, or oral histories, from that time.
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In Japan evereyone belongs to a group, lolita dressing, goth dressing, and the workplace is more efficent cause they are working in a group against other groups.
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That is an erroneous statement. Japan owes it current economic prosperity precisely to the fact that _all_ Japanese work together to further the prosperity of _all_ Japanese. This is, I am sure, why it was Europeans, and not Japanese, who came up with the notion of race.
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To make it short, tensions will always bee there cause people need to have groups, its our animal instinct.
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I disagree. I have already talked about the error of suggesting this is instinctual behavior. But, in addition to that, it is also an error to suggest the anti-Other behavior of Caucasians is present in all other subgroups of homo sapiens. All people, to varying degrees, tend to socialize among their own. But, this is not so much anti-Other as it is pro-Us.
White Supremacy is distinctly anti-Other. The Turner Diaries, and the history of the Jim Crow south, include numerous instances of whites killing even other whites as part of their demonic drive to destroy the Other. This lack of concern, even for other Caucasians, suggests a component to their madness that transcends racism and may even, as suggested by certain prophecies, indicate their pseudo-possession by certain spirits of evil in our world [Satan/Set].
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