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Old December 4th, 2006, 11:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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But that still doesn't sum it all up. What sums it all up is us. "Men". We're the inhumane assholes not only leaving behind the one's who've given birth to our children but also the children themselves. It baffles n' eludes me as to why/how a person can leave behind, forget, n' not give a damn about their own flesh n' blood.


preach preacher!!!

people can write books etc..all day long but it still comes down to what the men in our race are doing and have done to the black woman.

Contrary to popular belief, single mothers aren’t the reason black men go wrong but it seems to be this anti-black female rhetoric that is always being put forth to us. Like the OP said..rap music and videos is replete with this image of the black woman.

Yes…black women use black men…but by the same token, black men use black women imo a whole lot more and a whole lot worst.. for example, a brutha having sex with a woman until she gets pregnant then it’s off to the next one until she gets pregnant then so on and so on.

Leaving the woman to bare all the responsibility for the child while the man comes and goes as he pleases.a strong effective Black male presence is need in a family and in many cases it’s not there…plain and simple

Imo…sistas are getting tired of waiting on black men to step up to the plate so they educate themselves and get the good jobs paying big bucks,then some of us men have the nerve to decry intemidation when a woman makes more than them.

Black women get slapped in the face everytime they see a black male choosing to be a father to a white women and their kids, even to the kids that aren’t theirs. But kick them to the curb when it comes to them and their kids. I see it everyday or when ever I go to the mall.

It really ticks me off
 
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Old December 5th, 2006, 03:59 PM   #12 (permalink)
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@ Brotha Reign: "TELL THE TRUTH AND SHAME THE DEVIL."

A very good point that you've illustrated indeed. And, unfortunately, for SOME of our black men, yet another reason why the "black dollar" continues to flow out of the black community where WE need it--my opinion only. :(
 
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Old December 5th, 2006, 04:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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@ Brotha Reign: "TELL THE TRUTH AND SHAME THE DEVIL."

A very good point that you've illustrated indeed. And, unfortunately, for SOME of our black men, yet another reason why the "black dollar" continues to flow out of the black community where WE need it--my opinion only. :(
Saw a brutha pushin' one of the new Bently coupe's the other day 'round my area. I like to see stuff like that you feel me? Honestly makes me smile a bit..like "Yeah, one of us..dude's doin' it". But this one particular time I happened to notice who was in the passenger seat n' she wasn't a Sistah. For some reason that bothered me.

I find that a bit odd, b/c personally I've stepped outside of my race in the past.
 
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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I agree that mothers, sisters, aunts, etc. are primarily responsible for teaching the young men of the house to respect women while at the same time we are acting like women worthy of respect in the first place.
 
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Old December 6th, 2006, 07:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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^5 to dark reign...i could not have put it better myself...as a Black woman im so tired of seeing us dogged by the media and by our own black men...just hurts my heart....and i know some people mentioned baby boy which i agree had a message in it even though i wasnt too happy with the ending...he still didnt get a job, got ole girl pregnant AGAIN! and was living off of her....anyway everytime i think of that movie i laugh cuz when i watched it with my mother she was pointing out everything that we should never let a man do to me and my sisters saying stuff like
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Old December 11th, 2006, 01:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Black women are doing it just as much as black men, if not more. DarkReign, if you consider yourself an *******, thats' fine. You can't speak for me or any other brothers I know.
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Old December 11th, 2006, 12:13 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Black women lost their role, when they stopped being treated correctly by their men. Is it right no, but a lot of them do what they think it takes to keep the man or they do things to relieve the pain of things done in their childhood at the hands of a man. Then there are the sisters who have had to do everything so long on their own, when they find a good man he's lumped with the others. Our race has a problem in general. Somewhere along the way we lost ourselves. Back to the original post, yes home is where you get your foundation. Some of who you are changes when you experience the world, but your main frame is your enviroment.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 08:56 PM   #18 (permalink)
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that's so true, but surprisingly what they're learning at home might be from their own mothers. The way their mother refer to other women or to their daughters, how they might act like they "need a man" different messages that mothers may subconciously be teaching their children.
 
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Old December 13th, 2006, 11:53 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Black women are doing it just as much as black men, if not more. DarkReign, if you consider yourself an *******, thats' fine. You can't speak for me or any other brothers I know.

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Oh really? Where is your emperical data at to support this claim? Also, my post was about my surroundings and what I see here where I live at, I made no mention of you or your friends. I can I speak on what going on there; but the posts that are being posted on this board as a whole tells me that this is a nation wide problem.

Show me where black women are going from man to man having kids and leaving the father to take care of them while they run the street with their girlz? show me the physical abuse the women heap on the black man over nonsense? Show me where you see black fathers with their kids while the black woman is walking around with a white man on her are. You can’t b\c the scrip isn’t flipped that way.

One of Most devastating aspects of slavery was the way it tore black families apart. Slavery separated husband from wife and child from parent. Now fast forward to the present and look at the devastating aspect of the father not being in the home.

we have scores of young black kids turning their backs on school, choosing instead a state of self-imposed ignorance that in the long run is as destructive as a bullet to the brain.


Here are some stats:

1.Nearly a third of black men in their 20's have criminal records

2. 8 percent of all black men between the ages of 25 and 29 are behind bars.

3.H.I.V. and AIDS have literally become the black plague; and we only make up 13 percent of the population.

Now we can pretend that these things are not happening, but they are. There's a crisis in the black community and the black woman is not the sole cause of it and we need to stop trying to put all of the blame on her.
 
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Reason black boys learn so much disrespect from women because theyve seen mommy with different men and abuse from the men so as they get older, the boys seem to follow what they saw as a kid. black women cant blame all black boys for growing up disrespecting them because they got it from them.
 
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