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Old August 14th, 2006, 12:47 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I feel the problem here is that we,as positive brothers,need to reach the young males to break this cycle of unwanted kids.The reason why I feel strongly about this is that we create life.Teach the young boys the self respect and repect for a woman that we were taught growing up.(The Rites of Passage to some who don't know)Once they learn self respect,along with personal reponsibility,all this will soon pass.We positive brothers,countrywide,just have to more proactive.I feel it's up to the men in our culture to handle this.
Well said brother, well said.
 
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Old August 14th, 2006, 01:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I feel the problem here is that we,as positive brothers,need to reach the young males to break this cycle of unwanted kids.The reason why I feel strongly about this is that we create life.Teach the young boys the self respect and repect for a woman that we were taught growing up.(The Rites of Passage to some who don't know)Once they learn self respect,along with personal reponsibility,all this will soon pass.We positive brothers,countrywide,just have to more proactive.I feel it's up to the men in our culture to handle this.
Good poitn my brothah, but the same needs to be done on the female front also.
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Old August 14th, 2006, 03:09 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Good poitn my brothah, but the same needs to be done on the female front also.
I agree but let me ask you(and the rest of the forum)this Do you think that if men in our community were doing what we were suppose to,would our women follow us unconsciously?
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Old August 14th, 2006, 03:41 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I agree but let me ask you(and the rest of the forum)this Do you think that if men in our community were doing what we were suppose to,would our women follow us unconsciously?

I'd like to offer my spin on your question jcsump. It would be akin to...."the blind leading the blind" if BOTH are not responsible and evolved individuals. What I think is lacking inasmuch as "following us unconsciously" in many, not all, respects is the LACK of vision, discipline and personal accountability for some of our black men.
 
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Old August 14th, 2006, 04:46 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I agree but let me ask you(and the rest of the forum)this Do you think that if men in our community were doing what we were suppose to,would our women follow us unconsciously?
I'm speaking for myself and my lady friends and acquaintences, but I believe that most mature-minded ladies have no problem with a strong man who is confident and will take leadership, and if he leads in love and wisdom, that's a big AMEN!
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Old August 14th, 2006, 05:13 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I'm speaking for myself and my lady friends and acquaintences, but I believe that most mature-minded ladies have no problem with a strong man who is confident and will take leadership, and if he leads in love and wisdom, that's a big AMEN!
I will co-sign on this statement as I don't have a problem with a man being the leader. "HOWEVER", I have had this conversation with many men - past relationships, family members, co-workers, etc. and all men agree they want to "wear the pants."

My only comment to that is I don't mind you wearing the pants, but pull them all the way up on your @ss. Meaning - don't say you are wearing the pants in this relationship and I have to tell you to empty the trash; don't say you are wearing the pants in this relationship and I have to tell you that the grass needs to be cut or the SUV needs detailing or waxing; don't say you are wearing the pants in this relationship and I have to tell you that I need my back massaged or my feet rubbed. Wear the pants, but pull them all the way up on your @ss!!! ;)
 
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Old August 15th, 2006, 01:53 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I agree but let me ask you(and the rest of the forum)this Do you think that if men in our community were doing what we were suppose to,would our women follow us unconsciously?
I say yes. We're naturally the leaders and it doesn't have to be unconscious for the women to follow us. Like I said before, if we take control of our families everything will be to the good. If we reclaim that leadership role our women and children will naturally fall in step with the program.
 
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Old August 25th, 2006, 02:10 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Great topic. My take on this is very simple. The responsibility is on both parties. Female and Male. It starts by being true to yourself and stating up front what you really want out of your dealings with each other. The first thing to do is stop trivializing relationships and sexual matters.
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Old September 14th, 2006, 08:29 AM   #29 (permalink)
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black women seem to be attracted to those kind of men.theres unwanted kids born everyday,but sometimes chicks make the mistake by being with the wrong men based on what he drives,wears,and look, which isnt important at all
 
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