Why can't blacks work together?

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Local Black Newspaper Asks the Question "Why Can't Blacks Work Together" and Stirs Community-Wide Dialogue

Read article here: http://www.letstalkhonestly.com/page/page/1307246.htm

George Cook www.letstalkhonestly.com

[jamesfrmphilly]

blacks CAN work together and do so daily.
with that in mind why post an article that says we cannot?

[RaInEdomThoughtz]

Originally Posted by jamesfrmphilly

blacks CAN work together and do so daily.
with that in mind why post an article that says we cannot?

X_RainedomThoughtz_ (cosign)

Im so sick of being told was WRONG with me as a Black individual.

I find that the article has no substance. The author claims that black people cannot work together and yet he draws no real examples from the communities. His claim is baseless.

[Sumyr]

I won't say that blacks can't work together. But I have had the pleasure of working for Blacks, Whites, and Jews and my worst employment experiences were at the black owned businesses.

For those needing an example, read on: I worked for a major insurance company which had a black agent as my boss and his wife was office manager. The boss's wife would always grill me about everything. I take full credit for the mistakes I made and she had every right to correct me. But there were a lot of instances where the boss would tell me to do one thing and his wife would want me to do another. He would often come to my defense and tell her in front of everyone that he gave me instructions to do so-and-so and that he was the boss. I was often in the middle of their disputes.

This did not sit well with her and she lashed out at me - all the time. Well after taking this abuse among other things for so long, I saught other employment and left. The boss was crushed as I really had grown to become a good sales rep. - even went to class to obtain my agent's license myself and could tell you anything you wanted to know about insurance and where to find it in all the manuals - down to the page and paragraph.

He tried everything to get me to stay; she of course could care less. He even tried to get me back years after I had left. He adopted several of my policies and work ethics (punctuality, unique customer service to name a few as he was always late and so was she).

But for those that may say this could have easily have happened in a white establishment or with the Jewish business I worked for - it didn't and the wife worked there as well.

[jamesfrmphilly]

Originally Posted by Sumyr

I won't say that blacks can't work together. But I have had the pleasure of working for Blacks, Whites, and Jews and my worst employment experiences were at the black owned businesses.

For those needing an example, read on: I worked for a major insurance company which had a black agent as my boss and his wife was office manager. The boss's wife would always grill me about everything. I take full credit for the mistakes I made and she had every right to correct me. But there were a lot of instances where the boss would tell me to do one thing and his wife would want me to do another. He would often come to my defense and tell her in front of everyone that he gave me instructions to do so-and-so and that he was the boss. I was often in the middle of their disputes.

This did not sit well with her and she lashed out at me - all the time. Well after taking this abuse among other things for so long, I saught other employment and left. The boss was crushed as I really had grown to become a good sales rep. - even went to class to obtain my agent's license myself and could tell you anything you wanted to know about insurance and where to find it in all the manuals - down to the page and paragraph.

He tried everything to get me to stay; she of course could care less. He even tried to get me back years after I had left. He adopted several of my policies and work ethics (punctuality, unique customer service to name a few as he was always late and so was she).

But for those that may say this could have easily have happened in a white establishment or with the Jewish business I worked for - it didn't and the wife worked there as well.

based on this are you making the argument that black people cannot work together?
are you saying that this is your only experience and you have no experience with black people working together?
i to have had bad experiences with blacks but i have also had good experience.
overall, i would say that black people can work together.

[RaInEdomThoughtz]

Originally Posted by Sumyr

I won't say that blacks can't work together. But I have had the pleasure of working for Blacks, Whites, and Jews and my worst employment experiences were at the black owned businesses.

For those needing an example, read on: I worked for a major insurance company which had a black agent as my boss and his wife was office manager. The boss's wife would always grill me about everything. I take full credit for the mistakes I made and she had every right to correct me. But there were a lot of instances where the boss would tell me to do one thing and his wife would want me to do another. He would often come to my defense and tell her in front of everyone that he gave me instructions to do so-and-so and that he was the boss. I was often in the middle of their disputes.

This did not sit well with her and she lashed out at me - all the time. Well after taking this abuse among other things for so long, I saught other employment and left. The boss was crushed as I really had grown to become a good sales rep. - even went to class to obtain my agent's license myself and could tell you anything you wanted to know about insurance and where to find it in all the manuals - down to the page and paragraph.

He tried everything to get me to stay; she of course could care less. He even tried to get me back years after I had left. He adopted several of my policies and work ethics (punctuality, unique customer service to name a few as he was always late and so was she).

But for those that may say this could have easily have happened in a white establishment or with the Jewish business I worked for - it didn't and the wife worked there as well.

Your claim has nothing to do with race. Are you saying that you had less problems BECAUSE the couple was Jewish? I believe the problems with the first couple had to do more with their marital issues then race. Your arguement is baseless as well.

[Sumyr]

I'm sticking to what I know and experienced - I have had more problems when the employer is black as opposed to other races. I never said that I didn't encounter problems at the white/jewish establishments. But I had more problems at the black establishments and most were on a personal level while at the other establishments the problems were based on a business level.

This was my experience - I do not represent nor speak for the entire race.

James - No, this wasn't the only experience, but it was one of the worst. I could list many others like the time I went to work for a school district headed by a black superintendent. He was my boss and I reported directly to him. He told me upon my getting hired that his secretary who is white wouldn't like me and would do whatever she could to get me fired or ensure that I would quit. He told me not to worry and that as long as I did my job everything would be fine.

Well I did my job but this woman was allowed to run rampant. My thing is if he knew this then why did "HE" allow it to happen. She had been with the district for 1,000 years so she was an ***et - notice the emphasis. My findings are not baseless as the girl that was in the position before me encountered the same problems as I did.

When I told her (the girl before me) what I encountered she was not surprised. I asked her why she didn't warn me? She said she didn't want to be biased and influence me in any way. She also said she wanted to see if I would encounter the same problems as she did.

He sat by and did nothing about a personnel problem with this woman. I know I was a good employee as I got recommendations from everyone in the district upon my leaving - the asst. superintendent, the director of human resources, the psychologist, etc. - and I didn't even asks for those letters of recommendations they were given to me freely.

When I reported a problem at a white establishment that I was having with another white co-worker he was written up, given a warning, and placed on probation for a full year. He couldn't even come in late. I was about to leave this white establishment as well but they wouldn't let me go and dealt with the situation.

I never said blacks couldn't work together - only that "my" personal experiences haven't been favorable with black employers.

[jamesfrmphilly]

i guess i was wrong. apparently black people cannot work together after all.

[Jackson]

I don't see why there is need to place emphasis on either extreme. At the end of the day some black people have had good experiences working for or under other blacks, and others have not. Generalizations in favour of either extreme are ineffectual by nature, they can never be substantiated by everyone.