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Old July 12th, 2007, 06:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question What caused space to be?

What could possible have caused space to be? Was space there before matter came into the picture? Does space have an ending point or ending part that causes the vacuum?
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Old July 13th, 2007, 03:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hmmm.....good question? Glad to see I'm not the only crazy that ponders this type of stuff before I go to sleep at night.
Various physicists have stated that time and space are simply measurements of matter. Both of which correspond to how long the matter is. Maybe space is simply the absence of other things. What's left after everything is gone...
Time is also an interesting concept to ponder on those contemplative nights. Many have postulated that time doesn't really exist, but that's a topic for another.

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Old July 13th, 2007, 03:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ahhh,.......... whatever yall is saying its all good, but i'm lost.
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Old July 14th, 2007, 02:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Personally, I have no idea where space came from. I remember it being one of the fundamental thing thats usually defined by measurement. A vacuum is supposed to be a volumetric measurement of space that contains no matter. I guess space is one of the fundamental dimensions that explains a bit of the orientation of existence (who the hell knows how many there are). With it being infinite, I really wonder just how empty it really is. I guess the properties it does display with time and matter would make it more vacuum than anything else. Its really mind boggling how complex the implications of it are. It also makes me think about the limitations of life in 3 dimensions.

The definition of space implies that it exists without matter. I don't think we'd ever know for sure because its beyond our ability to verify absolutely with our limitations. Its assumed to be an infinite dimension along with time. New theories seem to always manage to spring up from philosophers, mathematicians and physicists that throw a wrench in things haha.

Good questions man. Definitely gave me something to mull over in the bathtub.
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Old July 16th, 2007, 09:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
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One question. Why would you think space has no matter?
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Old July 16th, 2007, 10:09 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Ditto what Afrocentric said. This is funny - well to me - as this is the first time I don't have any valid points to make regarding a topic on Afro Chat. I haven't the foggiest about space. I'm the one nowadays always championing why NASA exsists in the first place. I can't see the relevance of traveling to the moon and in outter space since man first walked on the moon in 1968. We haven't found anything of significance that will prolong life, create more food/water, cures for cancer, AIDS, MS, or other diseases. So, why continue to funnel billions of dollars in "space" or nothing???

Funny I have this take on NASA and space now as when I was younger I wanted to work for NASA. My how times have changed.

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Guys an gals that is an east answer "space' was created by God...I just dont understand what is so difficult bout it.
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Old September 25th, 2007, 12:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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What could possible have caused space to be? Was space there before matter came into the picture? Does space have an ending point or ending part that causes the vacuum?
I have difficulty with the concept of a true vacuum. I am more inclined to believe that some "thing" exists every "where" - even in what we might call a vacuum.

One way of combining Eintein's revolutionary theories is to conclude that All space and matter and energy are all the same One "stuff". Einstein spent the last years of his life searching, in vain, for the answer to what this One "stuff" was -- The Theory of Everything.

All of which skates dangerous close to being syncretic with certain ancient cosmological systems concerning the idea that All is One.

Ancient sages surmised that this One that is All emanated five elements -- air, water, fire, earth, and space [which they called ether] -- of which All is composed. Time, rather that being a sixth element, was simply a mental construct that man invented to help him grasp the unlimited nature of the All that emanated from, yet still is the One.
I can not gasp that All is One - that grandfather, father, I, and even my future descendants are One -- hence, I will invent Time to break up this Unknowable All into an infinity of discontiguous Is -- the essense of dualism -- with the Unknowable One now being perceived as some thing separate from I - and with I being further separated into yesterday's I, today's I, and tomorow's I.
One African mathematician, Gabriel A. Oyibo, has written a proof that All is One. He explains it for the layman in this way:
...the universe originated from and continues to exist as a unified wave force field called God or Spirit. The concentration of this wave force field is called matter, which is proved to have hydrogen atom as its fundamental building block... This theorem, hence, unifies the three popular accounts of the origin of the universe by concluding that, God's Word (Holy Books), was the Big Bang (Science), which sounded like the Roaring Waters of Nun (Ancient Africans), since all three accounts have waves as a common building blocks.
The Kybalion states this differently, more concisely, using the word vibration instead of waves -- All Is Vibration. The idea, here, is that All "things" are the same "thing" -- vibration. Matter, space, and energy differ only in that they vibrate at different rates. How does Man create a nuclear explosion? He causes matter, refined uranium, to vibrate at a faster and faster rate until it becomes energy.
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Salaam (Peace) to all...

There is no difference between Essence and Form, except to the untrained Eye. For, if we put the Form under a microscope, do we not find it is composed of smaller forms, called atoms?

And, if we put those atoms under a microscope, do we not find them to be composed of yet smaller forms called particles?

And are not these particles made of the Primordial Life Force, which is called by names such as Electricity, or Essence, or Spirit?

Where, then, can the division between Essence and Form lie? There is none.

There is only the Divine Consciousness and the Vessels which It Creates to express Itself through.

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I really don't care any more I'm here for a reason and that reason is to be here for that reason because that reason is the reason I'm here so I can fulfill that reason which gives me the reason that I am here.
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