Obama Renegs on Campaign Finance Promise

[DBlack]

Once again proving that he is not about change, but part of the same ole broken system, Obama blatantly lies and renegs on his earlier promise to use public funds for his Presidential campaign.

The importance of using public funds is that it ensure that all candidates campaign on an even field, giving more weight to the public vote, and less influence to special interests.

As the days go by, we will all have to face up to the fact that Obama is not about change, but simple the samel old tactics with a new face....

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[MrAtlanta]

Originally Posted by DBlack

Once again proving that he is not about change, but part of the same ole broken system, Obama blatantly lies and renegs on his earlier promise to use public funds for his Presidential campaign.

The importance of using public funds is that it ensure that all candidates campaign on an even field, giving more weight to the public vote, and less influence to special interests.

What special interests are you referring to? The man is receiving the lion share of his contributions from ordinary people via the web, at an average of $ 100.00 per person. This is campaign finance reform at it's best. Money coming directly from the people themselves, not the special interests.

Yeah, he changed his mind about the use of public funds. What's the big deal? The Obama campaign is expected to raise in excess of $ 500 million during the general election, and only a fool would agree to accept the financial constraints imposed by the campaign finance system.

Why settle for $85 million when you know full well you're capable of raising 5 times that by ethical means? Grow up !!!!

With the kind of money Barack is expected to raise, he can compete heavily by advertising in a number of "red states" that were once thought to be safe for Republicans, states like Georgia, North Carolina, Montana, Colorado, Indiana, Virginia, Kansas and Nevada. He's gonna bankrupt the McCain campaign by making them spend money in places they thought they wouldn't have to. And this is the very thing that Republicans fear. They know they're not equipped to compete against Obama in all of these states, and Obama plans to run what he calls, a "50 state strategy". McCain is in trouble, and he knows it.

Another thing....

Barack is going to need those extra funds to help fight off the Republican "swiftboaters", better known as the independent 527s. John Kerry lost the 2004 presidential election because he didn't have enough money set aside to respond to those types of groups.



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BTW, here's the truth about Obama when it comes to accepting money from PACs and lobbyists....


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Obama Keeps Dean At DNC, Bans Lobbyist Money


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[DBlack]

Mr. Atlanta, how consistently sad!

Where I come from, a lie is a lie. Like typical politics, Obama is choosing which rules and promises he wants to follow and honor. Mr. Atlanta, if you want to support dishonesty and corruption, that is your choice. You and politicans like Obama, are what is fundamentally wrong with the system today: Leaders have no credibility and too many 'followers' are willing to make excuses for those they wish to support.

I called out Bush on his dishonesty and so many other white politiicans. If you are not willing to stand by what you say, you shouldn't promise to do it. It's that simple.

All that blabber about why he needs the money is like a bank robber justifying why the bank should be robbed, ignoring the fact that a far worse deed was committed.

Whether you agree with Obama's lie is anohter issue, but this latest act proves that, once again, Obama's is acting like politicians of today and past. These tactics are nothing new. And since he continues to prove he is nothing new, it would be rediculous to think he would be about change.

America's problems require something more than an UncleTom community organizer from one of the worse states in the country.

[mlr710]

Originally Posted by MrAtlanta

What special interests are you referring to? The man is receiving the lion share of his contributions from ordinary people via the web, at an average of $ 100.00 per person. This is campaign finance reform at it's best. Money coming directly from the people themselves, not the special interests.

Yeah, he changed his mind about the use of public funds. What's the big deal? The Obama campaign is expected to raise in excess of $ 500 million during the general election, and only a fool would agree to accept the financial constraints imposed by the campaign finance system.

Why settle for $85 million when you know full well you're capable of raising 5 times that by ethical means? Grow up !!!!

With the kind of money Barack is expected to raise, he can compete heavily by advertising in a number of "red states" that were once thought to be safe for Republicans, states like Georgia, North Carolina, Montana, Colorado, Indiana, Virginia, Kansas and Nevada. He's gonna bankrupt the McCain campaign by making them spend money in places they thought they wouldn't have to. And this is the very thing that Republicans fear. They know they're not equipped to compete against Obama in all of these states, and Obama plans to run what he calls, a "50 state strategy". McCain is in trouble, and he knows it.

Another thing....

Barack is going to need those extra funds to help fight off the Republican "swiftboaters", better known as the independent 527s. John Kerry lost the 2004 presidential election because he didn't have enough money set aside to respond to those types of groups.



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BTW, here's the truth about Obama when it comes to accepting money from PACs and lobbyists....


Scroll down the article....


Obama Keeps Dean At DNC, Bans Lobbyist Money


Obama keeps Dean at DNC, bans lobbyist money - Yahoo! News

Obama's campaign IS being publicly financed....its the ultimate in being publicly supported.

[1evitavresnoc]

How do you all know that the supposed $500 million that the Obamessiah will raise is ALL from the $20-$25 donations by average ordinary American citizens? In foregoing his campaign promise/pledge/commitment, the Obamessiah is leaving himself open to criticism and the possibility of corruption by so called special interests in this manner. I guess it is all peaches and cream for the candidate that you are supporting to lie and be about the same old political tactics as long as he can give a good speech and is half Black.

[darkwing69]

Yes the majority of his campaigns donations have come from the public, that is not the issue in the question, he is now stating that he will be excepting the donations of those special interest groups taking the power out of the hands of those people that gave up that hard earned 100 dollars and he is now playing right into the hands of the "special interest" groups you know the ones who are raising gas prices at an alarming rate, he is showing that he is no different than any other politician and rendering empty promises. He proposes more fuel efficient cars and bio fuel and all these wonderful thing that could not possibly have a impact or your pocket until 2012, but economy is one of his highest concerns. Skin color is not the issue the issue is what is the change that he is going to bring for the better, because right now alls i can see that will change in the white house will be skin color

[Istlota]

Originally Posted by 1evitavresnoc

How do you all know that the supposed $500 million that the Obamessiah will raise is ALL from the $20-$25 donations by average ordinary American citizens?

1evitavresnoc, my soul leaps within the lotus of my heart when I see an American refuse to blindly accept what he or she is being told in TV sound bytes.

The next link is a recent NY Times piece on Obama's financing. Most of it is the usual gushing over Obama's donations from the common man, which is indeed unprecedented. BUT, if you keep reading down to the next to the last paragraph, you will find that the correspondent, Leslie Wayne, finally does, briefly, admit that less than half of Obama's money, 47% to be exact, comes from donations of $200 or less. Where means your suspicions are dead on. We have been lied to, yet again, about the real Obama.

Obama's Decision is Biggest Threat to Already Troubled Public Finance System

The next link is a site maintained by a group calling themselves The Center for Responsive Politics. Even though our sad excuse for media has been very good about not revealing where Obama's big money is coming from, some of that information is public knowledge. Hence, this site has a cool search engine that lets you track donations from individuals to specific candidates. I just a ran a search on donations from individuals to Obama which were larger than $2300. I got back 21 pages, and a message that there were more but the site will only report back 1000 hits. Hello ....

OpenSecrets

This last link is from the Federal Election Commission. It lists the maximum limits on campaign donation.

Contribution Limits Chart 2007-08

Note that individuals may not contribute more than $10K to individual candidates, which is why the hits from the previous site run by the Center for Responsive Politics only go up to $10K. But, note also there a lot of ways to get around that $10K limit. The flood gates really get opened up after the primaries because the limits for contributing to a party are much, much larger than for indivudals. Hence, now that Obama is the Democratic nominee, a rich guy who contributed the $10K limit in 2007 to Obama can now contribute another $28K to the Democratic party, knowing that some of that money is still going to be used to get Obama elected.

But, wink, wink, this setup allows Obama to claim that he, personally, did not accept that $28K donation.

Oh, but it gets even worse, much worse. Keep in mind that PACs [lobbyists] can also contribute to both individual candidates and to parties.

Oh, but it still gets worse. Read carefully and you will find that there are ten categories that have NO limits on the amounts that can be contributed.

[DBlack]

Originally Posted by mlr710

Obama's campaign IS being publicly financed....its the ultimate in being publicly supported.

Mrl710, you know better! More misinformation. Obama lied, reversed his position on taxpayer funded PUBLIC financing. This was put in place as a method of giving all presidential candidate an equal purse of money. By doing so, it eliminates much of the special interest and big corporation lobbyist influence. What Obama is crafty at is excepting large contributions funnelled through special interests, lobbyists, down to smaller and less obvious 'contributors'. 527 Organizations are big contributors to Obama's campaign.

Do you own research and stop believing only what you wish to believe. Obama doesn't get as many direct checks from big corporations, but he still gets plenty of special interest support. For example, Obama is endorsed by one of the biggest labor unions in the country. An endorsement like this means they will spend and contribute millions and millions of dollars to influence the political process; hence corruption.

I find it interesting that the Obama supporters here would ignore the fact that he lied and resort to making excuses. This is the same kind of behavior that Bush jr, Cheney, Rice, Bush Sr, Clinton, and a long list of other Presidents and cabinets have been commiting.

If Obama is truly a man of change, why does he continue to behave like the old guard, and most importantly, why are many of us willing to make excuses when he does it, but criticize the white, corrupt establishment, when they are guilty of it?

Any Obama supporter have the courage to answer these questions? Change is not coming...just a half white UncleTom with the same ole agenda.

[DBlack]

Originally Posted by 1evitavresnoc

How do you all know that the supposed $500 million that the Obamessiah will raise is ALL from the $20-$25 donations by average ordinary American citizens? In foregoing his campaign promise/pledge/commitment, the Obamessiah is leaving himself open to criticism and the possibility of corruption by so called special interests in this manner. I guess it is all peaches and cream for the candidate that you are supporting to lie and be about the same old political tactics as long as he can give a good speech and is half Black.

by Reneging on his own promise, he's already shown that he's corrupted. All that empty talk about change, but there is none.

And we as a people are willfully turning a blind eye...

[mlr710]

Originally Posted by DBlack

Mrl710, you know better! More misinformation. Obama lied, reversed his position on taxpayer funded PUBLIC financing. This was put in place as a method of giving all presidential candidate an equal purse of money. By doing so, it eliminates much of the special interest and big corporation lobbyist influence. What Obama is crafty at is excepting large contributions funnelled through special interests, lobbyists, down to smaller and less obvious 'contributors'. 527 Organizations are big contributors to Obama's campaign.

Do you own research and stop believing only what you wish to believe. Obama doesn't get as many direct checks from big corporations, but he still gets plenty of special interest support. For example, Obama is endorsed by one of the biggest labor unions in the country. An endorsement like this means they will spend and contribute millions and millions of dollars to influence the political process; hence corruption.

I find it interesting that the Obama supporters here would ignore the fact that he lied and resort to making excuses. This is the same kind of behavior that Bush jr, Cheney, Rice, Bush Sr, Clinton, and a long list of other Presidents and cabinets have been commiting.

If Obama is truly a man of change, why does he continue to behave like the old guard, and most importantly, why are many of us willing to make excuses when he does it, but criticize the white, corrupt establishment, when they are guilty of it?

Any Obama supporter have the courage to answer these questions? Change is not coming...just a half white UncleTom with the same ole agenda.

I changed my mind about a position I had on something 5 minutes ago...probably will do it again at some point in my life. I don't begrudge anyone, including a politician to change their position...indeed, its how damn every law gets passed...somebody has to change their mind. I doubt I will ever cast a vote for an individual incapable of recognizing that its okay to change your mind. I'm just flexible that way.