Obama Chastising Black Fathers, Once Again!

[dtownbro]

Originally Posted by MadameX

What kind of baseless assertion is this towards Our Brothas ? Come Correct.

When you both take into consideration how the private sector has made millions and because of the complicity of the public sector under the latest Bush league prez?

No suprise or shock to me even Obama etc. chooses to target somebody else entirely to blame for this culture and society ills...

He also wants to be a part of those cliiques:

And Cosby already presumes or assumes he is!

Etc.

Simply put?

Berating and chiding those who are the last people I'd dare to blame for this culture and society's prsent day ills (while saying nothing about those who I place first on my list ) is the coward's way out...

Also, please don't blur the distinction between the message, and where the messenger is coming from...

No...

Dissing either Cosby or Obama doesn't in and of itself advance my or our peoples best interests:

But...

Yes, indeed: Somebody's gottan tell it like it is, or we'll all suffer-- because ignorance damn sure ain't 'bliss'--particularly in a time like this!

Simply put:

We have to be cautious and wary of going for the same old b. s. via new guises...

FYI...

Later...

Take care...

Peace...

[Gwen]

Originally Posted by Istlota

Obama is just a politician, no better or worse than any of the other slugs who crawl out of the mud every two to four years.

This, I agree with! But then, why is it necessary to hold him to a different standard? The interesting question, in my opinion, is Obama (the individual), but whether we can build a movement off of the momentum that his candidacy has created (or more accurately, that his candidacy has capitalized off of, but also helped fuel) that has some lasting impact.

Gwen
Independent Voting

[MadameX]

When you both take into consideration how the private sector has made millions and because of the complicity of the public sector under the latest Bush league prez?

...

As far as either candidate or anybody else daring to blame powerless black men for being the reason for the decline in standards of moral behavior etc.,

Look at the comment above and effectively evaluated it.There's no way any self respecting Strong Real Black Man would defend a statement from a misguided confused Brotha that considers other Brothas to be poweless like himself mentally. When ever the adjective powerless is used to describe a man, it demasculates him . Have you ever heard of Nat Turner? Our Brothas come from stock of warriors and understand the nature of survival.

[abdurratln]

[quote=DBlack;181737] Support for elitist labor unions that don't create jobs......but provide livable wages.[/list]What is a livable wage? And I don't know where you get your economics education from, but job growth has a greater impact on the economy than increase in wages. The more people have jobs, the greater the consumer confidence, and the greater amount of goods and services sold at all levels. Making more money is good as well, but consumer behavior changes and inflation tends to increase.

Gee! Where did you study economics? The University of Tel Aviv? I mean, I do not want to piss you off again, and cause you to issue fresh thretas against me. And, I am NOT (excuse the bold-face) accusing you of of being subservient to peckerwoods. (GOD-willing, I might try that later; but, not now. But, I must take issue with your perverted economic ideas.

Let me take this real, real slow so that you can understand it and keep up with intelligent thought processes. What you just said sounds dangerously close to Reaganomics (what Papa Bush called Voodoo Economics (too bad Dumb Dumb Bush did not inherit Papa Bushs's good sense and and intelligence). That is not good! It is also called supply-sided economics. Supplied-sided is not new. Supply-sided economics is the very same thing as what lead the world into the Great Depression. It put huge profits into the pockets of the super-rich. But, it paid the workers, the people who actually produced the wealth from their sweat, so little in wages that they could not afford to buy the things that the economy offered as consumer goods. People could not pay rent; thus, they lived in Hoovervilles. They could not buy food; thus, they ate in soup lines. They could not buy clothing; thus, they wore rags or went half-naked. This is much worse than the recession that we are currently experincing. This was depression. It was world-wide depression. Nothing seemed able to revive the economy because the economy is governed by the ability of consumers to buy stuff. The Great Depression started with an economic crash in 1929. And it lasted until FDR's New Deal. It would still be going on had it not been for better wages and benefits leading to the ability of the average person to move into the Middle Class and not have to worry about the declining years in which a person is disabled or too old to do manual labor.

Unfortunately, H.E. Ronald Reagan, for all the good he did in terms of ending stagflation and bringing some decent paying jobs, did not have much appraication of the history of the Great Depression and the New Deal. Perhaps this can be attributed to his Alzheimer disease. Speaking of "qualifications to be president!!!. Even though Papa Bush was dumb enough to serve as Reagan's Vice-President (not to mention CIA Director), he was smart enough to know Voodoo economics when he saw it. Dumb Dumb is not so smart. Neither was Clinton. There is about 3 pennies worth of differenc between Dumb Dumb and Slick Willy; even though Slick Willy is obviously slicker than Dumb Dumb. Slick Willy set up a system of low-paying, minimum wgae jobs in which the zionists put Africans to work at part-time pay. In the good ole days under Carter, Ford and Nixon, a person could work two-three jobs and make ends meet. But, starting with Clinton, two-three jobs were not enough. Besides, it was impossible to even get two-three jobs due at least in part to so-called welfare reform. What this meant was poor welfare mothers were forced into the labor market. Because they had hungry little children at home (rather at the childcare centers) they could not refiuse slave-labor with slave-wages. This meant that the zionists could choose among a large pool of workers. So, the zionists did not have to pay over-time for working any one worker over over-time. It also meant that there were NOT (excuse the bold-face) any second or third jobs available for fathers, husbands and male heads of household. No wonder the homeless sheletrs all filled up under Clinton.

Now , comes Dumb Dumb Bush. The name says it all. It is "compassionate". So much so that we now have $5/gallon gas. We are not yet officially in recession. But, we are so close that we need "stimulaus checks" Unfortunately, even these "stimulaus checks" will NOT (excuse the bold-face) be enough to help elect John (Psycho brains kicked out by the Viet Cong 100 years in Irag) McBush. This is what happens when we spend half if not all of our time at the University of Tel Aviv.

• Lack of small business experience on ANY level.
  Good, the last president had experience at running businesses, and you see where that got us.

Ok, this comments is almost as bad as the earlier comments.

Do you think owning a Texas baseball team is "small Business"? What about about being the CEO for Haliburton? I mean, Haliburton is the main beneficiary of the war in Irag. The big oil companies are enjoying record profits. Do you call this "samll business"? Well, no matter what you call it. I call it it zionism par excellence.

[*]Avoidance of dealing with inner city problems that plague blacks and other minoriries.
but he was a community organizer??????????[/list]I'm talking about TODAY, not his petty local community organizer gig he did for a very short amount of time, that acheived very very little. Let's raise the bar on qualifications a little bit higher, shall we?!?

Well, I "feel your pain" on this one. But, Uncle Tom Obama is a Harvard Law graduate. He could be earnig income at the same level of **** Cheney's 400% of the average workers pay or the $100 million a year that the Clintons are raking in as a result of Slcik Willy being a Rhodes scholar, etc, etc, etc ad nasseum. But, instead he chose to work at a middle class income in order to serve and prepare to lead as President of the USA, the most poweful and richest country in the world. How do we show our appreciation? We show our appreciation by voting for Miss Ann and attacking Uncle Tom Obama on everything, real and imagined.

[dtownbro]

Originally Posted by MadameX

Look at the comment above and effectively evaluated it.There's no way any self respecting Strong Real Black Man would defend a statement from a misguided confused Brotha that considers other Brothas to be poweless like himself mentally. When ever the adjective powerless is used to describe a man, it demasculates him . Have you ever heard of Nat Turner? Our Brothas come from stock of warriors and understand the nature of survival.

Chuck:

My dear sista, you can continue to operate on the basis of idealized viewpoints, or you can accept the undeniable reality checks (wake up calls) I too dare not to ignore (or deny), as regards the plight of some (if not all) of today's black men are a bad reflection of...

Also please don't just nitpick as regards the words etc. I used:

I. e., what I was and am writing and talking about is how this culture and society etc. itself marginalizes me and mine, which is why I'm trying to educate today's younger (or not so younger) generations, because how the white powers that be (among others) operate lead such folk to believe nothing matters except their melanin levels, rather than the gifts they were/are blessed with, and they're failing to develop because of being misled to believe the first predetermines their fates, etc.

Instead?

When it comes to operating in the midst of anybody culture and society etc.:

Ignorance ain't 'bliss'...

It wasn't and isn't a white vs black world in the first place:

I. e., us now living on a planet strongly influenced by a globe spanning
economic and political elite as well, we best prepare ourselves and future generations to hold their own with all comers...

FYI...

Later...

Peace...

[MadameX]

Chuck:

..

It's a shame that you find it necessary to resort Kindergarden nonesense by attempting to insult me by addressing me as male when you know I am a women. I could care less about whatever your sick demented intentions are, I suggest you find another forum to vent it on. Because, I won't tolerate being victimized anymore.


You're not fooling the industry, public, or the FBI/FCC/FTC with the hacking or online multiple aliaes cyberbullying routine since you're being monitored right now as we speak, let the child's play stop here.

[dtownbro]

Originally Posted by MadameX

It's a shame that you find it necessary to resort Kindergarden nonesense by attempting to insult me by addressing me as male when you know I am a women. I could care less about whatever your sick demented intentions are, I suggest you find another forum to vent it on. Because, I won't tolerate being victimized anymore.


You're not fooling the industry, public, or the FBI/FCC/FTC with the hacking or online multiple aliaes cyberbullying routine since you're being monitored right now as we speak, let the child's play stop here.

Chuck:

It is not a good idea--and an awfully bad one-- when it comes to me--whenever somebody tries to make it personal/be subjective about it all...

If indeed other past or present male posters have approached you--a female poster-- on the basis of either covertly (subtle) or overtly (openly) male sexist opinions and viewpoints, it was and is your choice and your right to confront them directly:

Also it was and is your choice and your right to bring up such crap directly to the board moderator(s),
and if such disrespectful comments said person or persons continued to direct your way, then it would be their option and their right to permanently bad such louses from the forums of this website...

Otherwise-- I refuse to be-- yet again--reduced down to the level of anybody's scapegoat...

Yes...

If I had mistakenly referred to you as a male (rather than a female) I do offer you an apology (because that was not intended nor meant)...

But...

I did respond to you as I would any other adult (male or female)...

So if you can't (or won't) do likewise?

Let's just agree to disagree and end our exchanges with each other about this obviously very touchy subject...

As to what else you alleged or imply about me?

The reality is that 'Chuck' is a commonly used monicker and sometimes I simply have to use other monickers to post on different boards...

So, candidly and honestly, it was and is my intent and purpose to network etc. via different boards with different posters, though with the same intent and purpose in mind, i. e., as in to help bring about collective approaches to my (and your) peoples issues and problems, etc.

Also, do keep in mind, (since among those who also consider me an ally and a supporter) , I can easily guess that a few (who did and do know and understand my words are honest ones and my motivations sincere ones as well), that one or two are also probably going to start wonderng what motivated you to say and write things like that about me to begin with!

So it does work both ways...

FYI...

Later...

CTJ

[MadameX]

Again , as I restated previously sickone , whatever sick baseless twisted game your trying play here , has no mileage.It's a shame that you find it necessary to resort Kindergarden nonesense by attempting to insult me by addressing me as male when you know I am a women. I could care less about whatever your sick demented intentions are, I suggest you find another forum to vent it on. Because, I won't tolerate being victimized anymore.


You're not fooling the industry, public, or the FBI/FCC/FTC with the hacking or online multiple aliaes cyberbullying routine since you're being monitored right now as we speak, let the child's play stop here or land behind a jailcell.

[dtownbro]

My dear, in all due candor and honesty, I strongly suggest you seek professsion help...

FYI...

[MadameX]

My dear, in all due candor and honesty, I strongly suggest you seek professsion help...

FYI...

I suggest you look into the mirror, and do the same by badgering me as result of your recent dememtia diagnosis trying to use a strange name to possibly address me like I'm one of your two daughters in Texas and Australia.

As I've told you before, You're not fooling the industry, public, or the FBI/FCC/FTC with the hacking or online multiple aliaes cyberbullying routine since you're being monitored right now as we speak, let the child's play stop here or land behind a jailcell.