Who would you Vote for in '08 Election?

[Coco]

I'm not there remember, enlighten me!!!

[jasonc65]

Originally Posted by dred-pirate-rob

this is one of the most offensive lies i have heard them tell about obama....dont let them trick you....infanticide is simply infant homicide....and there is no sane person on the planet that supports that....

You haven't heard of after-birth abortion. When there is an attempt at aborting the baby by inducing labor, and the baby survives the abortion and is born live, the doctors let it die in a linen closet, and Obama supports that! That, folks, is infanticide.

You're right that no sane person would support it. Nancy Pelosi does not support it. And Obama is insane.

[jasonc65]

That quote is lying. Corsi, Coulter, and others are telling the truth. Obama is lying when he claims that the bill threatens abortion rights. It merely draws the line between abortion and infanticide. And for the record, I am strongly against both.

[jasonc65]

No I do not. I see where I was mislead by the left-wing crazies, and I'm not going there again. I've had enough of the identity politics. I'm not into all that gossip about Sarah Palin's daughter. That's down-right mean, and against women. And Sarah did not make her daughter give up her baby for adoption but encouraged her to keep it. Good for her. And giving a baby up for adoption is a much better choice than murder. You are being very incoherent. I have no time for this.

[jasonc65]

Another thing I detest about Obama is he's against school vouchers. Yet Obama sends his daughter to the best schools, but doesn't want the same for you. You all should be outraged.

[Samoon]

Originally Posted by Juice.

Good idea, the current poll is out of date. A lot of people who previously supported Obama (including me) have since changed their mind. It'd be interesting to see what the results are now.

I agree. Even more interesting to note are people that continually "thrust their OPINION" down the throats of others here....smh.

[Samoon]

Originally Posted by Celeste

BROTHER BARACK, all the way.

When he visited Los Angeles, folks (Black, White & Latino) commented:
"He reminds me of the Camelot days."
"He LISTENS to the people."
"I could really see him in the White House.", etc etc.

We're in desperate need of a change---new thoughts and new actions.

Celeste, I heard the brotha speak in LA....(sign) and he gives a stellar performance. Let us hope that his follow-up follows his MOUTH.
I have YET to see a politician that has not LIED to the American people--regardless of color.

Promises...promises. A government FOR the people BY the people?
I think NOT.

[StJohn1726]

I don't trust either one. I just don't believe this system allows one to rise through the ranks of political power on one's merits. The early nation builders did not want "mob rule" which is what a true democracy is, hence we have this damnable electoral college which votes its own interests. If public opinion can be swayed to support their choice, everything is cool. If not, you wind up with the 2000 election debacle.

As much as I want Obama to be the truth, I just can't accept he could have risen so fast without being a player in the old political game. Populist candidates (particularly progressives) are rarely taken seriously in politics and usually cannot amass enough popular support and money to demand to be take seriously. Those who get close to amassing that kind of grassroots power have always had their lives cut short (Medgar, King Jr., Malik Shabazz) in this nation long before they reach the public office levels.

I support Obama because before there can be a second or third progressive Black president, there must be a first (even if he's a great pretender). In addition, I do see him as the lesser of the evils we've be given to choose from. If we don't get the first one this year, how long will it be before we have another viable progressive candidate? I pray we're intelligent enough to vote against a Black neo-con when Rove or his protégés dangle a puppet in front of us in the near future (that fool from Ohio last election doesn't count).

So I'm a cynic... what of it?

[Istlota]

Originally Posted by Samoon

...I have YET to see a politician that has not LIED to the American people--regardless of color.

True, true ....

[SEATTLE]

Originally Posted by StJohn1726

I don't trust either one. I just don't believe this system allows one to rise through the ranks of political power on one's merits. The early nation builders did not want "mob rule" which is what a true democracy is, hence we have this damnable electoral college which votes its own interests. If public opinion can be swayed to support their choice, everything is cool. If not, you wind up with the 2000 election debacle.

As much as I want Obama to be the truth, I just can't accept he could have risen so fast without being a player in the old political game. Populist candidates (particularly progressives) are rarely taken seriously in politics and usually cannot amass enough popular support and money to demand to be take seriously. Those who get close to amassing that kind of grassroots power have always had their lives cut short (Medgar, King Jr., Malik Shabazz) in this nation long before they reach the public office levels.

I support Obama because before there can be a second or third progressive Black president, there must be a first (even if he's a great pretender). In addition, I do see him as the lesser of the evils we've be given to choose from. If we don't get the first one this year, how long will it be before we have another viable progressive candidate? I pray we're intelligent enough to vote against a Black neo-con when Rove or his protégés dangle a puppet in front of us in the near future (that fool from Ohio last election doesn't count).

So I'm a cynic... what of it?

anyone who thinks the electoral collage is going to go away as our tool for picking a president is fooling themselves.

i don't believe all our politicians are liars. if i thought they were i wouldn't vote for them.

but given the choice between john mccain, a war monger, and Barack Obama, a man with little executive experience, i pick the later rather then the former.

if given the choice between Joe biden, a man who talks too much, and Sarah palin, a woman who believes in torturing animals to death for money, i easily pick joe biden.