Who would you Vote for in '08 Election?

[PLAC3]

Originally Posted by Istlota

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Jesus Christ. You are one of the most deluded people I have ever met on the internet. I admit however my mistake, it wasn't McKinney herself who praised the Weathermen it was her VP, Rosa Clemente.

Cynthia McKinney has shown up at rallies in the Berkley/SFBAY area put on by groups with RevCom connections. Not even she is crazy enough to actually announce support for them, though.

Thirdly, 9/11 was NOT an inside job. Yes, there was massive incompetence involved at all levels of the "system", especially in the upper-echelons. But that doesn't make it an "inside job". I challenge you to find me a single piece of evidence that hasn't been solidly debunked,

Now, the Capital Hill incident. First of all, she was NOT wearing the lapel pin. A good amount of congress members don't wear it either. However, they look respectable and are wearing a nice suit and most of them have been in for ages. Cynthia McKinney looked like this on that day. The picture on her ID looks like this. Can you honestly look at the first picture, and fault the guy for stopping her? And she ADMITTED to hitting the guy. She says she hit him because of "inappropriate stopping and touching of me, a female black congresswoman." She punched him straight in the chest, too. It's not like she slapped his arm away. Yes, he grabbed her first, because he was doing his job as a policeman, nothing wrong with that.

[Juice.]

Originally Posted by PLAC3

Also you people voting for Cynthia McKinney are crazy. Not only are you throwing your vote away, but you're supporting someone who gave a speech praising the Weathermen, ( Weatherman (organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) ) along with other radical groups, like FARC. She also has demonstrated support for RevCom (communist revolution in America) and 9/11 truth organizations. And let's not forget the capital hill police incident. She actually punched a policeman in the chest, and then later had the balls to say HE was at fault. He could have actually taken her to prison right there, but he decided not to.

Oh my god! Thanks for bringing these unsettling facts to the light. I will no longer consider voting for Cynthia McKinney.

I will have to settle with one of the two main candidates. It's a hard choice. McCain will certainly stop Islamic terrorists from attacking my freedoms. Obama will prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons and nuking Israel like that Ahmadinejad promised. They both will stop Hugo Chavez from further oppressing his people. It's a hard choice, definitely.



Obama and McCain are two presidential candidates entrenched with the political status quo of this country. They do not intend to fulfill any sort of meaningful change in regard to the most pertinent issues effecting this country and particularly Blacks. They're just trained politicians who must walk a fine line between real domestic change or the end of their political career.

Which is why they both support AIPAC and Israel. They both support modern day African colonialism, Africom. They both support the banking system. They both support unregulated casino-Capitalism. They do not intend to change the system in any way.

Now, you expect us to change our mind about Cynthia McKinney simply because she supports the 3rd world and punched a cop in the chest? Give me a break.

[Paul Cuffee]

Originally Posted by PLAC3

Jesus Christ. You are one of the most deluded people I have ever met on the internet. I admit however my mistake, it wasn't McKinney herself who praised the Weathermen it was her VP, Rosa Clemente.

Cynthia McKinney has shown up at rallies in the Berkley/SFBAY area put on by groups with RevCom connections. Not even she is crazy enough to actually announce support for them, though.

Thirdly, 9/11 was NOT an inside job. Yes, there was massive incompetence involved at all levels of the "system", especially in the upper-echelons. But that doesn't make it an "inside job". I challenge you to find me a single piece of evidence that hasn't been solidly debunked,

Now, the Capital Hill incident. First of all, she was NOT wearing the lapel pin. A good amount of congress members don't wear it either. However, they look respectable and are wearing a nice suit and most of them have been in for ages. Cynthia McKinney looked like this on that day. The picture on her ID looks like this. Can you honestly look at the first picture, and fault the guy for stopping her? And she ADMITTED to hitting the guy. She says she hit him because of "inappropriate stopping and touching of me, a female black congresswoman." She punched him straight in the chest, too. It's not like she slapped his arm away. Yes, he grabbed her first, because he was doing his job as a policeman, nothing wrong with that.

Who will I believe as a Black man? A Black women or a white cop from Atlanta? Not a hard choice for me. Not sure what you are but it could be influencing your decisions.

[Istlota]

Originally Posted by PLAC3

Thirdly, 9/11 was NOT an inside job. Yes, there was massive incompetence involved at all levels of the "system", especially in the upper-echelons. But that doesn't make it an "inside job". I challenge you to find me a single piece of evidence that hasn't been solidly debunked,

That would be a waste of my time. At this stage of the game, after seven years of publicly available documentaries, books, and internet videos, the only people who do not know are those who do not want to know.

I am tempted to mention the esoteric significance of it now being 7 years after the Fall, but that, again, would be wasted upon you. If anyone else is interested, give me a shout.

Outside of America, it is commonly assumed that 9/11 was an inside job -- either our scoundrel in the Oval Office and his godless puppetmasters made it happen or let it happen. Even among white Europeans, this is a common conclusion. Ironically, it is among the victims of 9/11, my fellow clueless Americans, that we find the most resistance to the obvious. Their, and your, refusal to know grows from one Article Of Faith, the same Article Of Faith that allows them to believe that Bruce Ivins is the lone assasisn responsible for the anthrax mailings:

Surely, our own government would not do this to us.

Wake Up.

[PLAC3]

A waste of your time? Or maybe...you don't have any real evidence, and like most "truthers" I meet, you try to act like there's rock-solid evidence out there that is just common-knowledge, so you shouldn't have to tell me about it. Also, I doubt that most foreigners think it was an "inside job". The fact is, most *credible* experts who have analyzed 9/11 have supported the standard "buildings collapsed because of aircraft collision and fire" theory; and some of them only decided to give their take on it because of how ridiculous the 9/11 truth arguments were.

Paul:

Believing one person over another because of their race is just plain dumb. Considering the amount of anti-government sentiment on this board, coupled with accusations of institutional racism...it's ironic that you do the exact same thing that you accuse the police and justice system of doing. Secondly, when the incident started getting media attention, Cynthia McKinney first denied that she had done anything wrong, then eventually said that things had happened as the police report stated, she just called the cop a racist. So it really doesn't matter who you believe because they both gave the same story.


In any case, a vote for Cynthia McKinney will not do anything. Even if, by some miracle, she were elected president, what do you think would happen? That she would miraculously transform America into a racism-free paradise? African countries would become stable democracies overnight? Slave reparations? No. She lacks a basic understanding of how the American government works, and considering how much lying she does, do any of you really think she'll follow through on ANY of her promises? Africa will stay a shithole. The western world squanders millions of dollars trying to fix things there - but no amount of money or help can fix them. There will always be some racism in American society, no matter how "PC" we become. Slave reparations will never happen. Anyone who thinks they deserve reparations for slavery is greedy and selfish.

[Voluptuous Miss]

Originally Posted by PLAC3

A waste of your time? Or maybe...you don't have any real evidence, and like most "truthers" I meet, you try to act like there's rock-solid evidence out there that is just common-knowledge, so you shouldn't have to tell me about it. Also, I doubt that most foreigners think it was an "inside job". The fact is, most *credible* experts who have analyzed 9/11 have supported the standard "buildings collapsed because of aircraft collision and fire" theory; and some of them only decided to give their take on it because of how ridiculous the 9/11 truth arguments were.

Paul:

Believing one person over another because of their race is just plain dumb. Considering the amount of anti-government sentiment on this board, coupled with accusations of institutional racism...it's ironic that you do the exact same thing that you accuse the police and justice system of doing. Secondly, when the incident started getting media attention, Cynthia McKinney first denied that she had done anything wrong, then eventually said that things had happened as the police report stated, she just called the cop a racist. So it really doesn't matter who you believe because they both gave the same story.


In any case, a vote for Cynthia McKinney will not do anything. Even if, by some miracle, she were elected president, what do you think would happen? That she would miraculously transform America into a racism-free paradise? African countries would become stable democracies overnight? Slave reparations? No. She lacks a basic understanding of how the American government works, and considering how much lying she does, do any of you really think she'll follow through on ANY of her promises? Africa will stay a shithole. The western world squanders millions of dollars trying to fix things there - but no amount of money or help can fix them. There will always be some racism in American society, no matter how "PC" we become. Slave reparations will never happen. Anyone who thinks they deserve reparations for slavery is greedy and selfish.

....Hold the phone. Why is it that everytime I read posts that you've made they are always insulting and negative?? It seems to me that you need some "forum etiquette". There's a thin line between, speaking your mind, and being rude. You should've been checked at the door, if you can't be opinionated without disrespecting others maybe you should re-evaluate yourself.

[afrocentric]

thank you miss v...daggonit, someone please see plac to the door!!!

[lastword]

I will vote for him.

Obama 08'

[Coco]

If I couLd Vote oVer here in uK I would [Barack Obama], we sHould tho siNce we Are iNfluencEd all ThE same... hmmmm

[jasonc65]

Barack Obama is a monster. He's for infanticide.