Who would you Vote for in '08 Election?

[jamesfrmphilly]

Originally Posted by DBlack

Since are Civil Rights 'benefits'? Inalienable rights are not benefits.

prior to the civil rights movement those rights were not so "inalienable". i may well be old and stupid but i do know that wrestling over semantics is the purview of the protected and the privileged.

Originally Posted by DBlack

You claim to be a warrior, fighting for the black collective, but yet you don't even understand the fundamental meaning of what Civil Rights are....

you said i didn't know what pessimism was. i asked you to explain it to us. now you say i don't know what civil rights are. i ask you to explain it to us.

and bye the way, where were you in 1964 and 1968? i was fighting for something, i know not what.

[Mattylock]

I find it hilarious and ridiculous at the same time that intelligence and cognitive ability are measured by whether or not you support Barack Obama. The presumption on this board that an Obama supporter has done no research and is misinformed is ignorant. There is no logical relation. Reasonable minds can, and do, differ.

[DBlack]

Originally Posted by jamesfrmphilly

prior to the civil rights movement those rights were not so "inalienable". i may well be old and stupid but i do know that wrestling over semantics is the purview of the protected and the privileged.



you said i didn't know what pessimism was. i asked you to explain it to us. now you say i don't know what civil rights are. i ask you to explain it to us.

and bye the way, where were you in 1964 and 1968? i was fighting for something, i know not what.

Pessimissm; Read it yourself.
You simply don't know what you are talking about. 99% of your conversation is in the form of asking questions and deflecting. Obviously, when it comes to english and history, you and I went to two different schools. What inalienable is defined by God, not by man. I just gave you a push in the right direction, now go read and learn on your own.

In your world, your define it by what whites think, hence your perverse view of just about everything. And you wonder why you are lost.

I was born in 67, so I was hardly in the position to fight. But I bet I did more as a baby shyttin my clothes then you've done your whole life. Look at you; a fraud in the worse way, your cloak revealed every time you post. Only thing you were probably fighting for is a better position in the soup line with the rest of the UncleToms of that generation. Those who fought during that time, don't have the stomach for licking the boots of whitey, whereas you find it a mainstay in your cognitive diet.

No wonder you love Obama so much, both of you talk a good game, but have nothing to show for it. Yet, you are so quick to blame white folk for many of our problems, when you won't even use the God given talent and inalienable rights you have.

[DBlack]

Originally Posted by Mattylock

I find it hilarious and ridiculous at the same time that intelligence and cognitive ability are measured by whether or not you support Barack Obama. The presumption on this board that an Obama supporter has done no research and is misinformed is ignorant. There is no logical relation. Reasonable minds can, and do, differ.

No one's making that presumption. Learn how to comprehend basic english before you try and generalize an entire community. What you are doing in this post is ignorant and void of fact.

Being ignorant is anything but reasonable. But perhaps in your world it is...

[JABOOM]

I'll vote for the person that is REALLY going to change things
That's NOT taking any bribes
That is REALLY for the people
That is focused on TRUE Democracy and freedom
That is about TRUTH and not about saying whatever they need to say to get elected

.....So who is that?

I don't think any of the above.........:coffee-n-new_3:

[DBlack]

Originally Posted by JABOOM

I'll vote for the person that is REALLY going to change things
That's NOT taking any bribes
That is REALLY for the people
That is focused on TRUE Democracy and freedom
That is about TRUTH and not about saying whatever they need to say to get elected

.....So who is that?

I don't think any of the above.........:coffee-n-new_3:

You are right; the Sambo nikkerbocker Obama has his hands in the same cookie jar as the rest.

[UglymanCometh]

Originally Posted by DBlack

then you are no republican.

Sure about that? Obama's been getting a surprising amount of support from my fellow moderates that grew tired of the conservative hijacking of the party... but can't buy into some of the extreme left-wing, Nancy Pelosi-style politics of the democrats.

Barack Obama seems to be the most centrist of all the candidates. We can't trust McCain and his war-fueled hard on, and Huckabee will bring back that old time religion that will 1.) make G.W. Bush look like JFK and 2.) probably drag us back into the 19th century.

Hillary Clinton, with her (and Bill's) divisive campaign strategy is suspect, not only because of her well hidden conservative background, but because she has to resort to crying to win a primary. Add that to the fact that the lesbian agenda will probably succeed in replacing black men in America with (surprise!) black women if she's elected, and moderate republicans have got ONE candidate left.

Trust that if the Republican party was capable of cranking out a moderate candidate that represents the views of the common man, and not the church or corporate interests, we wouldn't be voting for a Democrat.

-Sebastian

[MrAtlanta]

I've given brotha Obama the benefit of the doubt. We gave Bill Clinton the benefit of the doubt when he first ran for President, so why can't give ONE OF OUR OWN the same benefit?

We continue to give white politicians like Bill and Hillary Clinton a free pass while we shyt on our own just for sport. I don't understand this. But then again, it could very well be the "crabs-in-a-barrel syndrome" that we've become accustomed to in the black community.

I swear, the way some of you negroes are carrying on, you'd think we were out here supporting Clarence Thomas or Condoleezza Rice for President.


BTW, does Hillary have a black agenda?

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BTW, Barack has now won 9 straight contests, and it could be 10 if Hawaii goes the way we think it will.

Keep it going, Barack !!!!


Yes We Can !!!!

[DBlack]

Originally Posted by UglymanCometh

Sure about that? Obama's been getting a surprising amount of support from my fellow moderates that grew tired of the conservative hijacking of the party... but can't buy into some of the extreme left-wing, Nancy Pelosi-style politics of the democrats.

Barack Obama seems to be the most centrist of all the candidates. We can't trust McCain and his war-fueled hard on, and Huckabee will bring back that old time religion that will 1.) make G.W. Bush look like JFK and 2.) probably drag us back into the 19th century.

Hillary Clinton, with her (and Bill's) divisive campaign strategy is suspect, not only because of her well hidden conservative background, but because she has to resort to crying to win a primary. Add that to the fact that the lesbian agenda will probably succeed in replacing black men in America with (surprise!) black women if she's elected, and moderate republicans have got ONE candidate left.

Trust that if the Republican party was capable of cranking out a moderate candidate that represents the views of the common man, and not the church or corporate interests, we wouldn't be voting for a Democrat.

-Sebastian

You can't be serious: Obama's doesn't have a single conservative platform that I know of. What he's getting is white support across all party lines, because to them, he is white. don't confuse that with Republican vs Democrat. Go to his website, his agenda is clearly and overwhelmingly democrate and/or liberal.

So my point is, if you and others can overwhelmingly support a candidate with a platform in strong contrast to yours, how can you say you are republican? it doesn't make sense. Either you stand by your convictions, or you don't. What we stand for defines us.

[DBlack]

Originally Posted by MrAtlanta

I've given brotha Obama the benefit of the doubt. We gave Bill Clinton the benefit of the doubt when he first ran for President, so why can't give ONE OF OUR OWN the same benefit?

We continue to give white politicians like Bill and Hillary Clinton a free pass while we shyt on our own just for sport. I don't understand this. But then again, it could very well be the "crabs-in-a-barrel syndrome" that we've become accustomed to in the black community.

I swear, the way some of you negroes are carrying on, you'd think we were out here supporting Clarence Thomas or Condoleeza Rice for President.


BTW, does Hillary have a black agenda?

Benefit of the doubt?! That's some retarded shyt. He's not applying for a job as a bus driver! I can't speak for Bill and Hillary, because I'm not white. But for you to say they got a free pass is bullshyt. They stayed under scrutinity and investigation damn near the entire time he was in office. Brush the cobwebs off your TV sir and see what kind of flack they catch now.

Clinton no Hillary didn't have a black agenda, but I didn't know they were supposed to; they are white. So I guess we define our leaders by what whites say, do and think now? No wonder we are screwed up as a people. I guess when Obama starts fuggin up the economy and the world the same way bush has, you'll find a way to make excuses like you are now? Amazing.

Crabs in a barrel? The only one that is going to hold someone back is Obama. When he becomes President, I'll predict his legacy right now:

• Further job loss and entrance into deep recession. Blacks will be worst hit during this downturn.
• Continued occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.
• Open borders and illegal amnesty; driving down wages for minorities.
• Continue rise in health care costs.
• Continued pork-barrel legislation.

He'll be GW Bush with a half-black face.

Yes, He'll make history as the first half-black president. But he'll also go down as one of the worst. And we as a people will have to stomach the fact that while we suffered the most under his leadership, we put him in office. How embarrassing will that be to read to your grandkids?!

And Obama is not one of our own. Unless you are an islamic fundamentalist, half white, drug abusing, Uncle Tom fraud, then YES, he is one of your own.

People like X, King, Farrakhan, Sharpton, Jackson, Dubois, etc... are one of my own. A long list of real black leaders that never sought to appease crackerz. but I guess we got them new nikkers in town now...YES, YOU CAN be an UncleTOM!