Who would you Vote for in '08 Election? - Page 21 - AfroChat - African American

natirnr · January 6th, 2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasori

It is not tearing our people down to question underlying motives in which they are running for and not simply voting for someone because of their color or to set a precedence.

Plus, mixing religion and government is never a good mixture, only what is good for your nation

belief system, as a Christian, I will tell you that this is a sectarian Nation, based on the concept of seperation of church and state.
Now Christian does mean revolutionary so one would be against the Illuminati, and all of their slick talking puppets.
Now I am not going to go into quoting the bible, cause if you do not know, Hebrew and the parables and metaphysical meanings of names,it is not wise IMHO to use the Old Testamet to verify or analyze anything in politics, these were tools written for inner transformation!

Sasori · January 6th, 2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by natirnr

belief system, as a Christian, I will tell you that this is a sectarian Nation, based on the concept of seperation of church and state.
Now Christian does mean revolutionary so one would be against the Illuminati, and all of their slick talking puppets.
Now I am not going to go into quoting the bible, cause if you do not know, Hebrew and the parables and metaphysical meanings of names,it is not wise IMHO to use the Old Testamet to verify or analyze anything in politics, these were tools written for inner transformation!

It is not wise to use any part of religion to use as a guide for decisions in sectarian government. It was one of the reasons which the original marauders came to this country rather than stay in Europe.

As well as most of the atrocities which happened in Europe from being 'guided' by faiths and their political and physical war against anyone who spoke against their faith. Plus, a variety of religions do have agents in different organizations and secret groups which do perform 'hidden' activities

Government is not meant to serve God, only the welfare of the people of your nation, your religious stance shouldn't take part in it because, and in this Republic as an example, are many different faiths and in ways, give one more prominence than the other.

The only stance one as a politician should have is that of the Humanist, the best solution for all in your nation

natirnr · January 6th, 2008, 08:41 PM

Your absolutely right, all the Knights, who claim they want, and will conive to create secterian governments, and democracy; in Arab nations,
are dead set on denying either in this nation.
As was ilustrated, quite eloquently, in the movie "Lions for Lambs" poitics is a science,
and belief and faith in this arena,
can only lead to fascism.
The point now is,
do we vote,
sjnce w know the deck is stacked,
or do we take some other political action?

DBlack · January 6th, 2008, 08:48 PM

What is the subject of this thread again....>?

ezekielscall_2 · January 7th, 2008, 08:12 AM

I have to say this. Back in the days of the American Revolution, as I recall, this country’s forefathers deemed black folk as only 3/5 of a man. This was done so that we could be held powerless, and, as a matter of fact, and correct me if I’m wrong, but per plantation, we outnumbered the slave master, and those that ran the plantations. Here we are, in the 21st century walking onto our jobs and finding nooses hanging, in plain view, anywhere a Black eye can see it. In this new millennium, we can still wake up or go to sleep to crosses burning on our front lawns. When I consider the fact that we are still looked at and treated as less than human, I have to now reconsider the fact of voting for the status quo. I don’t care which one of these white candidates it is, we are not going to see any differences in our communities. People say that Barrack hasn’t done much, but when I look around, he is being endorsed by a lot of people that were once Hillary backers. But that, to me, is neither here nor there. I’m just flat out not going to vote for more of the same. If you happen to be one of those people that enjoy hearing the rattle of chains dragged all around your life, then go ahead and vote how you feel. I can’t do that. We haven’t had this kind of viable choice ever. Yes, we’ve had Sharpton and Jackson, but I only see them as pathfinders. Now we have a real candidate, and to me, the real quest is not whether or not America is ready, but is Black America ready? I don’t think that we are…I don’t think o, because there are too many of us that still suffer from “Post-Traumatic Slave Syndrome.” In other words, there are too many of us that still believe that we have to have a white person dictate to us how we should live and what we are to look like to the rest of the world. They have painted a picture of us to the world, and we have to look like the people that have painted on the canvas.

This is also why I believe that Black folk need to fall away from the thinking that we have to have a separation of church and state. If I were the leaders of the minority class of people in this land, I would not want the majority to ever know that there is a way for them to achieve oneness and unity, which would weld power for them. I’m going to do, or say whatever I need to do or say in order to maintain control over everything, and I am not going to allow anything to happen that’s going to cause me to lose control. Therefore, because I understand that Black America is basically a very faithful people when it comes to God…I don’t care if you happen to call Him God or Allah…I don’t care whether you believe Jesus was the Messiah or another prophet, we are among the most faithful of people when it comes to what we believe. No we don’t need a separation from church and state, what we really ought to be doing is to learn how the Bible or the Holy Koran teaches us to be one. This is what The Honorable Minister Farrakhan has said, it seems like forever…what we need to do is to put everything to the side…all of our differences, and put The Koran and the Bible up on the table, and see what God has to say to us. And I believe that that is real. We have been trusting and listening to Caesar for all too long, and he has continually found ways to bamboozle and hoodwink us…anyway, this is just one man’s opinion…but let me leave you all with this:

Willie Lynch letter: The Making of a Slave
This speech was delivered by Willie Lynch on the bank of the James River in the colony of Virginia in 1712. Lynch was a British slave owner in the West Indies. He was invited to the colony of Virginia in 1712 to teach his methods to slave owners there. The term “lynching” is derived from his last name.
Greetings,
Gentlemen. I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First, I shall thank you, the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your problems with slaves. Your invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies, where I have experimented with some of the newest, and still the oldest, methods for control of slaves. Ancient Rome would envy us if my program is implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we cherish, I saw enough to know that your problem is not unique. While Rome used cords of wood as crosses for standing human bodies along its highways in great numbers, you are here using the tree and the rope on occasions. I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree, a couple miles back. You are not only losing valuable stock by hangings, you are having uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, you suffer occasional fires, your animals are killed. Gentlemen, you know what your problems are; I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems, I am here to introduce you to a method of solving them. In my bag here, I HAVE A FULL PROOF METHOD FOR CONTROLLING YOUR BLACK SLAVES. I guarantee every one of you that, if installed correctly, IT WILL CONTROL THE SLAVES FOR AT LEAST 300 HUNDREDS YEARS. My method is simple. Any member of your family or your overseer can use it. I HAVE OUTLINED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENCES AMONG THE SLAVES; AND I TAKE THESE DIFFERENCES AND MAKE THEM BIGGER. I USE FEAR, DISTRUST AND ENVY FOR CONTROL PURPOSES. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies and it will work throughout the South. Take this simple little list of differences and think about them. On top of my list is “AGE,” but it’s there only because it starts with an “a.” The second is “COLOR” or shade. There is INTELLIGENCE, SIZE, SEX, SIZES OF PLANTATIONS, STATUS on plantations, ATTITUDE of owners, whether the slaves live in the valley, on a hill, East, West, North, South, have fine hair, course hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences, I shall give you an outline of action, but before that, I shall assure you that DISTRUST IS STRONGER THAN TRUST AND ENVY STRONGER THAN ADULATION, RESPECT OR ADMIRATION. The Black slaves after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self-refueling and self-generating for HUNDREDS of years, maybe THOUSANDS. Don’t forget, you must pitch the OLD black male vs. the YOUNG black male, and the YOUNG black male against the OLD black male. You must use the DARK skin slaves vs. the LIGHT skin slaves, and the LIGHT skin slaves vs. the DARK skin slaves. You must use the FEMALE vs. the MALE, and the MALE vs. the FEMALE. You must also have white servants and overseers [who] distrust all Blacks. But it is NECESSARY THAT YOUR SLAVES TRUST AND DEPEND ON US. THEY MUST LOVE, RESPECT AND TRUST ONLY US. Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control. Use them. Have your wives and children use them, never miss an opportunity. IF USED INTENSELY FOR ONE YEAR, THE SLAVES THEMSELVES WILL REMAIN PERPETUALLY DISTRUSTFUL. Thank you gentlemen.”
Coming..Part Two:

DBlack · January 7th, 2008, 10:29 AM

Do Not post chain please...

ezekielscall_2 · January 7th, 2008, 10:45 AM

I will never stop speaking truth to my people...

natirnr · January 7th, 2008, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ezekielscall_2

I will never stop speaking truth to my people...

maybe it would be appropriate to look up the Council on Foreign Relations, who backs it, how it was formed,
and decide for yourself wether they work for God or Satan?????????

DBlack · January 7th, 2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ezekielscall_2

I will never stop speaking truth to my people...

By all means, please do. All I ask is that you follow our rules. thx,

sephari · January 7th, 2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DBlack

Do Not post chain please...

what does that mean? i've never heard of that before...

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ezekielscall_2 Afro Resident Occasional 2Cents Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Gender: Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Rep Power: 0 Credits: 278	In Response I have to say this. Back in the days of the American Revolution, as I recall, this country’s forefathers deemed black folk as only 3/5 of a man. This was done so that we could be held powerless, and, as a matter of fact, and correct me if I’m wrong, but per plantation, we outnumbered the slave master, and those that ran the plantations. Here we are, in the 21st century walking onto our jobs and finding nooses hanging, in plain view, anywhere a Black eye can see it. In this new millennium, we can still wake up or go to sleep to crosses burning on our front lawns. When I consider the fact that we are still looked at and treated as less than human, I have to now reconsider the fact of voting for the status quo. I don’t care which one of these white candidates it is, we are not going to see any differences in our communities. People say that Barrack hasn’t done much, but when I look around, he is being endorsed by a lot of people that were once Hillary backers. But that, to me, is neither here nor there. I’m just flat out not going to vote for more of the same. If you happen to be one of those people that enjoy hearing the rattle of chains dragged all around your life, then go ahead and vote how you feel. I can’t do that. We haven’t had this kind of viable choice ever. Yes, we’ve had Sharpton and Jackson, but I only see them as pathfinders. Now we have a real candidate, and to me, the real quest is not whether or not America is ready, but is Black America ready? I don’t think that we are…I don’t think o, because there are too many of us that still suffer from “Post-Traumatic Slave Syndrome.” In other words, there are too many of us that still believe that we have to have a white person dictate to us how we should live and what we are to look like to the rest of the world. They have painted a picture of us to the world, and we have to look like the people that have painted on the canvas. This is also why I believe that Black folk need to fall away from the thinking that we have to have a separation of church and state. If I were the leaders of the minority class of people in this land, I would not want the majority to ever know that there is a way for them to achieve oneness and unity, which would weld power for them. I’m going to do, or say whatever I need to do or say in order to maintain control over everything, and I am not going to allow anything to happen that’s going to cause me to lose control. Therefore, because I understand that Black America is basically a very faithful people when it comes to God…I don’t care if you happen to call Him God or Allah…I don’t care whether you believe Jesus was the Messiah or another prophet, we are among the most faithful of people when it comes to what we believe. No we don’t need a separation from church and state, what we really ought to be doing is to learn how the Bible or the Holy Koran teaches us to be one. This is what The Honorable Minister Farrakhan has said, it seems like forever…what we need to do is to put everything to the side…all of our differences, and put The Koran and the Bible up on the table, and see what God has to say to us. And I believe that that is real. We have been trusting and listening to Caesar for all too long, and he has continually found ways to bamboozle and hoodwink us…anyway, this is just one man’s opinion…but let me leave you all with this: Willie Lynch letter: The Making of a Slave This speech was delivered by Willie Lynch on the bank of the James River in the colony of Virginia in 1712. Lynch was a British slave owner in the West Indies. He was invited to the colony of Virginia in 1712 to teach his methods to slave owners there. The term “lynching” is derived from his last name. Greetings, Gentlemen. I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First, I shall thank you, the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your problems with slaves. Your invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies, where I have experimented with some of the newest, and still the oldest, methods for control of slaves. Ancient Rome would envy us if my program is implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we cherish, I saw enough to know that your problem is not unique. While Rome used cords of wood as crosses for standing human bodies along its highways in great numbers, you are here using the tree and the rope on occasions. I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree, a couple miles back. You are not only losing valuable stock by hangings, you are having uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, you suffer occasional fires, your animals are killed. Gentlemen, you know what your problems are; I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems, I am here to introduce you to a method of solving them. In my bag here, I HAVE A FULL PROOF METHOD FOR CONTROLLING YOUR BLACK SLAVES. I guarantee every one of you that, if installed correctly, IT WILL CONTROL THE SLAVES FOR AT LEAST 300 HUNDREDS YEARS. My method is simple. Any member of your family or your overseer can use it. I HAVE OUTLINED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENCES AMONG THE SLAVES; AND I TAKE THESE DIFFERENCES AND MAKE THEM BIGGER. I USE FEAR, DISTRUST AND ENVY FOR CONTROL PURPOSES. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies and it will work throughout the South. Take this simple little list of differences and think about them. On top of my list is “AGE,” but it’s there only because it starts with an “a.” The second is “COLOR” or shade. There is INTELLIGENCE, SIZE, SEX, SIZES OF PLANTATIONS, STATUS on plantations, ATTITUDE of owners, whether the slaves live in the valley, on a hill, East, West, North, South, have fine hair, course hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences, I shall give you an outline of action, but before that, I shall assure you that DISTRUST IS STRONGER THAN TRUST AND ENVY STRONGER THAN ADULATION, RESPECT OR ADMIRATION. The Black slaves after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self-refueling and self-generating for HUNDREDS of years, maybe THOUSANDS. Don’t forget, you must pitch the OLD black male vs. the YOUNG black male, and the YOUNG black male against the OLD black male. You must use the DARK skin slaves vs. the LIGHT skin slaves, and the LIGHT skin slaves vs. the DARK skin slaves. You must use the FEMALE vs. the MALE, and the MALE vs. the FEMALE. You must also have white servants and overseers [who] distrust all Blacks. But it is NECESSARY THAT YOUR SLAVES TRUST AND DEPEND ON US. THEY MUST LOVE, RESPECT AND TRUST ONLY US. Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control. Use them. Have your wives and children use them, never miss an opportunity. IF USED INTENSELY FOR ONE YEAR, THE SLAVES THEMSELVES WILL REMAIN PERPETUALLY DISTRUSTFUL. Thank you gentlemen.” Coming..Part Two:

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January 6th, 2008, 08:41 PM	#203 (permalink)
natirnr Afro Resident Emerging Voice Join Date: Nov 2007 Gender: Posts: 277 Thanks: 45 Thanked 36 Times in 28 Posts Rep Power: 0 Credits: 1,963	Your absolutely right, all the Knights, who claim they want, and will conive to create secterian governments, and democracy; in Arab nations, are dead set on denying either in this nation. As was ilustrated, quite eloquently, in the movie "Lions for Lambs" poitics is a science, and belief and faith in this arena, can only lead to fascism. The point now is, do we vote, sjnce w know the deck is stacked, or do we take some other political action?

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ezekielscall_2 Afro Resident Occasional 2Cents Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Gender: Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Rep Power: 0 Credits: 278	I will never stop speaking truth to my people...