Southern Rappers Ruining Hiphop?

[afrocentric]

Originally Posted by Mr Gumbo

I got to run out real quick but I'll be back with a reply to this.

uh oh,.... i can't wait to hear your thoughts about this......

[Meroe]

Looks like the civil war is about to flame up on this thread...

Northern Hip Hop vs Southern Hip Hop...

[ardamus]

Originally Posted by Mr Gumbo

I got to run out real quick but I'll be back with a reply to this.

Please do. Kareem doesn't know what he just did in here.

[Meroe]

Being a native of Queens and experiencing New York hip hoppers make a name for themselves in the eighties, I gotta drop my two cents for NY.

LOL!

[JABOOM]

Ok I admit a lot of S#it hop does come from the south but the WHOLE rap game was screwed over when they let these huge companies with nothing but money lust get involved in the music.

NOW being from the South myself Southern rap is far from the problem. A lot of sambo artist get picked up from down here and ready to do anything to get some 20's.......hell if you sell dope but the NORTH MIDWEST AND WEST have the same type of artist all around. The problem is these companies that sign them and companies that promote them just like the idea of making that quick buck of the next big hit.

TumTum that Souja boy cat and the rest will be gone next year and broke thanks to the A&R's they deal with.

You Can't put Outkast or Goodie Mob in the same group as them.........like different cities and area's they're are different styles. Some fools just make what their told.........their called SELL OUTS.

Please before you disrespect every artist take some advice from a Southern artist that told Al Shrapton the same thing.

"listen to all the artist before you come to any one conclusion

[ardamus]

Originally Posted by afrocentric

now i like these bros. i do have most of their *CLEAN* versions songs. i have to admit that i can't handle the dirty ones. so if i download their music, i have to order the clean so i can enjoy them mo better.

Well out of all of them, Chamillionare is the only one who I say is taking a step more towards not using as much profane language. Most of these guys have a good range topics to talk about but not everyone knows that. I'd say stuff like Dirty, Project Pat, and Playa Fly is definitely not what you want your kids to hear.

[Kareem]

Afrocentric

Lol....Macy Gray is a beautiful woman (both cute and sexy as hell) but she has no business doing music.

She has no talent for music and has an irritating voice.

I saw her in IdleWild....she'd probably make a good actress if she can rembmer her lines.




Sumyr

Kareem, Again I fail to see your evidence of how the Southern Rappers have soley contributed to the decline of hip-hop/rap

That's because it doesn't.

Hip hop started declining when they moved the focus from the East Coast to the West Coast.

It started becoming criminal and immoral...and was used to encourage Black youth to become criminal and immoral.
That's why NWA and Tupac were hyped up so much.


Now the Southern rappers are being used to turn Black people into STRAIGHT UP savages.

Why would anybody think it's cool to pronouce "that there" as "dat durr"?

It sounds retarded and shiity....








Most human beings know talent when they see and hear it.

A good voice and a good beat is universal and transcends cultural lines.

.....which is why Hiphop was so popular and powerful in the first place.


For Black men to grow their hair out wild, get on the stage and making rough gruffy sounds like animals, bounce and rock and sling thier arms when they rap.....anybody with common sense will automatically see this as apish and primitive and see it as uncouth and inferior.

But that's exactly the direction the industry is trying to steer Black hiphop artists and eventually Black youth in.


There are a lot of good Southern Rappers but they aren't getting a lot of air-time.

They are promoting the WORSE of our people in order to disgrace us....is that so hard to understand?

[Lediamand]

All rappers who rapped about nothing but money, jewelry, cars and the follies of a wanna be thug are ruining Hip Hop, and its sad to say that these guys are everywhere.

[Mr Gumbo]

First of all the southern rappers are not ruining hip hop it's the major record companies ruining hip hop. Hip hop should never ever ever be mainstream because you see why. Now yeah that snap BS in Atlanta, that Superman, all that other crap is crap BUT back in the day we had Luke, 2 Live Crew and JT Money and hip hop wasn't ruined. What's missing is variety, there's none because once again 1 dude get rich doing a song like this so the majors like sound like him next thang you know there are a bunch of copy cats out there. Throw radio stations in there too they play the same 20 songs all day long.

Now get the hezll on with your sob story, yeah we talk funny, we country down here. We don't ride subways we ride cadillac's on vouges so our music gone sound different from everybody, if the rest of coasts was smart they'd work with down south artists cause we so big we ain't going no where no time soon brah. You talking bout stuff you seeing on the radio and BET so your opinion don't count cause you obviously don't know about hip hop. Come listen to some real down south artists, K-Rino (can out rhyme anybody from any coast and been in the game 20 years on some black power political shizt), Scarface, Z-Ro, Bun B, ESG, Twisted Black, Pharoah and I can go on and on. What about that sorry song "This Is Why I'm Hot", hot trash from NY, Snoop Dogg a cartoon character from the West, so stop hatin the south. Yall thank we slow down here be taught the world how to get on your grind and do for yourself, not wait on no major labels like the other coasts. You got young brothers down here CEO's of they own stuff not owing labels like everywhere else.

[ardamus]

Originally Posted by Kareem

Sumyr

That's because it doesn't.

Hip hop started declining when they moved the focus from the East Coast to the West Coast.

It started becoming criminal and immoral...and was used to encourage Black youth to become criminal and immoral.
That's why NWA and Tupac were hyped up so much.


Now the Southern rappers are being used to turn Black people into STRAIGHT UP savages.

Why would anybody think it's cool to pronouce "that there" as "dat durr"?

It sounds retarded and shiity....








Most human beings know talent when they see and hear it.

A good voice and a good beat is universal and transcends cultural lines.

.....which is why Hiphop was so popular and powerful in the first place.


For Black men to grow their hair out wild, get on the stage and making rough gruffy sounds like animals, bounce and rock and sling thier arms when they rap.....anybody with common sense will automatically see this as apish and primitive and see it as uncouth and inferior.

But that's exactly the direction the industry is trying to steer Black hiphop artists and eventually Black youth in.


There are a lot of good Southern Rappers but they aren't getting a lot of air-time.

They are promoting the WORSE of our people in order to disgrace us....is that so hard to understand?

So, what....I'm supposed listen to all rappers that preach about positivity and they may not have their facts right or they just straight suck? Sure....thats a good solution. On top of that, its not like every rapper that spits lyrics about upliftment has skills either. You have take in account talent here, fam. Thats just as bad as a rapper who talks about nothing but clothes, cars, women, jewelry, and etc. See, the problem is the message but no one wants to admit that talent is part of it as well. Hip hop is a craft and no matter what you spit, you have to work on it just like any other artform.

And sorry, not all rappers dress like you said on stage. At the same time, why the hell would want every emcee to look like Carlton Banks from Fresh Prince stage? Nah slim, that doesn't add up to me. I bet you if that rapper was dressed as how you described and he had a song about helping someone in need, a song about his mother, and so forth, you'd pay attention. Its not like a hip hop artist has to dress like he's going on a job interview. Thats ridiculous.

And the south isn't all to blame. Look at it from all coasts and you'll see the same thing. The east was on that and lost it. Then west came up. now its the south. Even the mid-west there's the same problem you're talking about. So, if you know there are good southern hip hop artists that aren't made out to be sambos......why haven't they been mentioned in this argument of yours? And trust me, the more indie artists you find out there, the more you'll see alot of hip hop artists trying to avoid what the industry is trying steer them towards.