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Old July 13th, 2008, 07:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Dragon,

Why do you say it's not in their nature? What is that based on? I hear that excuse often but I don't understand where or how it has come to be.
 
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Old July 13th, 2008, 09:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Dragon,

Why do you say it's not in their nature? What is that based on? I hear that excuse often but I don't understand where or how it has come to be.
I don't think Dragon was using it as an excuse or necessarily condoning it.

I also believe there are many things in man's nature that are not positive. Promiscuity for one, violence for another.

I think you can find this in most religious writings.

I bet that if you where to remove the "spiritual" issues, the relationship impacts and the potential of disease, 90% of men would love to have many, many, many partners. Sex for men tends not to be about relationships. It tends to be about sex.

Enlightened men understand we can't remove the spiritual, relational or medical implications. So we struggle against our nature.

I sure that women tend to have their own struggles that men don't fully understand.

This doesn't mean men can't be monogomous, it just means that we struggle to make it "second nature".
 
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Old July 13th, 2008, 10:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't think Dragon was using it as an excuse or necessarily condoning it.

I also believe there are many things in man's nature that are not positive. Promiscuity for one, violence for another.

I think you can find this in most religious writings.

I bet that if you where to remove the "spiritual" issues, the relationship impacts and the potential of disease, 90% of men would love to have many, many, many partners. Sex for men tends not to be about relationships. It tends to be about sex.

Enlightened men understand we can't remove the spiritual, relational or medical implications. So we struggle against our nature.

I sure that women tend to have their own struggles that men don't fully understand.

This doesn't mean men can't be monogomous, it just means that we struggle to make it "second nature".
Wow, that is an excellent explanation for it. I love that. That makes sense to me and heck even if you remove the spirituality and the impact on the relationship, maybe 50 percent of the women would too.

I think women are evolving. It's no longer enough just to have a good man. Women I think want to be with a partner as well who can fullfill ALL their needs.

Thanks and I mean that sincerely for your explanation.
 
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Old July 14th, 2008, 12:36 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I don't think Dragon was using it as an excuse or necessarily condoning it.

I also believe there are many things in man's nature that are not positive. Promiscuity for one, violence for another.

I think you can find this in most religious writings.

I bet that if you where to remove the "spiritual" issues, the relationship impacts and the potential of disease, 90% of men would love to have many, many, many partners. Sex for men tends not to be about relationships. It tends to be about sex.

Enlightened men understand we can't remove the spiritual, relational or medical implications. So we struggle against our nature.

I sure that women tend to have their own struggles that men don't fully understand.

This doesn't mean men can't be monogomous, it just means that we struggle to make it "second nature".
Perfect explanation. Most women will not or cannot accept that a mans nature, particularily his sexual nature is different from ours. For example, take prostitution. You don't see scores of women trying to pick up men off the street to pay for sex; But you do see the men trying to pick up the women to buy sex.

Not understanding, accepting, and being willing to compromise and work with a man's nature is the #1 down fall for women.
 
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Old July 15th, 2008, 03:19 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Old July 17th, 2008, 07:41 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I don't think Dragon was using it as an excuse or necessarily condoning it.

I also believe there are many things in man's nature that are not positive. Promiscuity for one, violence for another.

I think you can find this in most religious writings.

I bet that if you where to remove the "spiritual" issues, the relationship impacts and the potential of disease, 90% of men would love to have many, many, many partners. Sex for men tends not to be about relationships. It tends to be about sex.

Enlightened men understand we can't remove the spiritual, relational or medical implications. So we struggle against our nature.

I sure that women tend to have their own struggles that men don't fully understand.

This doesn't mean men can't be monogomous, it just means that we struggle to make it "second nature".


I agree with most of this. I, for one, never cared for the idea having many, many partners concurrently, nor do I like the idea of serial monogamy (marry, divorce, marry again, divorce, marry again....). I'd much rather be a bigamist. I prefer the idea of taking full responsibility for being sexually active with another woman. Additionally, sex without emotional bonds soon becomes passé, IMO.

However, as I alluded to in the other related thread, my wife was not raised in an environment where this practice was/is common, hence, she has been socialized to believe a husband who treats another woman as well as he treats her is disrespecting her. That being the case, she would be hurt if I pursued another relationship, and no man who truly loves his spouse, does things to hurt his spouse, intentionally. That realization is my only true deterrent.
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I agree with most of this. I, for one, never cared for the idea having many, many partners concurrently, nor do I like the idea of serial monogamy (marry, divorce, marry again, divorce, marry again....). I'd much rather be a bigamist. I prefer the idea of taking full responsibility for being sexually active with another woman. Additionally, sex without emotional bonds soon becomes passé, IMO.

However, as I alluded to in the other related thread, my wife was not raised in an environment where this practice was/is common, hence, she has been socialized to believe a husband who treats another woman as well as he treats her is disrespecting her. That being the case, she would be hurt if I pursued another relationship, and no man who truly loves his spouse, does things to hurt his spouse, intentionally. That realization is my only true deterrent.
I love your honesty.
 
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I agree with most of this. I, for one, never cared for the idea having many, many partners concurrently, nor do I like the idea of serial monogamy (marry, divorce, marry again, divorce, marry again....). I'd much rather be a bigamist. I prefer the idea of taking full responsibility for being sexually active with another woman. Additionally, sex without emotional bonds soon becomes passé, IMO.

However, as I alluded to in the other related thread, my wife was not raised in an environment where this practice was/is common, hence, she has been socialized to believe a husband who treats another woman as well as he treats her is disrespecting her. That being the case, she would be hurt if I pursued another relationship, and no man who truly loves his spouse, does things to hurt his spouse, intentionally. That realization is my only true deterrent.


Oh how I love your statement .................."That being the case, she would be hurt if I pursued another relationship, and no man who truly loves his spouse, does things to hurt his spouse, intentionally. That realization is my only true deterrent."[/quote]
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Old July 18th, 2008, 06:33 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Perfect explanation. Most women will not or cannot accept that a mans nature, particularily his sexual nature is different from ours. For example, take prostitution. You don't see scores of women trying to pick up men off the street to pay for sex; But you do see the men trying to pick up the women to buy sex.

Not understanding, accepting, and being willing to compromise and work with a man's nature is the #1 down fall for women.
This is the simple answer to the matter and it is the truth. This topic has been talked to death, and since the dawn of time, man's nature has never changed and never will. Men cheating on women has nothing to do with women, it has to do with us.
 
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