My obligation to know the cost

[chibaba]

Originally Posted by JABOOM

True VERY TRUE,

What must happen is another 9/11.....

Tragedy sadly is what will unite the people. Lets say Obama become president and gets killed by the KKK, many people would unite on a fight against racism.
A nuke is dropped on the US by the US people would stand and fight the govt if the truth is revealed that it was a testing of a bomb and we were the test subjects.
Something big needs to unite the people under a vision that the only hope is fight back.....because they plan to kill you anyway so would you rather die in submission or die fighting back.

Well the situation is just that, for the most part we people of color are wanted DEAD! The signs are there in Africa, Haiti, and right here in Amerikkka. People still will look at the things I am saying as crazy or paranoid when if you look at it all you can't escape that this is the truth.
Once this is seen by us then so much can happen. Yes this is going on greatly over sea's but that is one way to keep the locals at ease........IT IS SO FAR AWAY AND IT WON'T HAPPEN TO US!

But it has, it is and it will...............again

In today’s world, another 9/11 = disaster capitalism, rebuilding is no longer the primary purpose of the reconstruction industry.
And with the miseducation and hegemony of the majority of the country (all races and nationalities) along with an ideology that is clearly defined by corporations and those run the Government, people are conditioned to take what their Government says at face value.
Thomas Jefferson (all of the people to quote) stated:

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."

New Orleans is a perfect example of how the feds clearly did not help and are not helping it own citizens, corporations are profiting from the misfortunate of others, and the rest of the country went on with life as usual.

Until people break out of the rut of being told how to think, behave, and carter to corporations through consumerism, nothing will change and the revolution will not be televised.

[s8loud]

The flip side of that question: did you know that the latest Lancet study estimated somewhere around 600,000 (and up to a million) Iraqis have lost their lives due to violence since 'coalition troops' invaded?

I dislike the focus on solely American lives, as if they're worth more than those whose country our military invaded.

[deej42]

that is so true s8loud...all human life that is lost is sad and has to be respected. we all the same.

[mlc0908]

I too am concerned for the Iraqis-they have my deepest sympathy. I believe that every life is equally valuable, there are none superior or inferior. I never meant to imply otherwise.

Peace and blessings to you and yours!

[Curious1]

RANDOM Questions sort of related and probably far fetched and crazy sounding...and much probably very OFF TRACK of the premise of this thread...but here goes...lol...

This is going to sound stupid...but I was wondering are there many to any Jewish soldiers "fighting" in this conflict...or is it against the Jews religion to join the military ..like here...I know they "fight" when in Isreal and Iraq borders...but do and are the Jewish soldiers fighting from USA over there...let alone "being killed" in this conflict..

And do you all see many Jewish leaders publically expressing their support for or against AmeriKKKan troops giving their lives for their Jewish land rights and Jewish causes and of course gas power/control issues...


I tell ya...The Jewish people weren't lying when they claim they are "The Chosen" people...chosen and favored....

Lastly...with all the GPS systems out here now...they STILL can't find Osama??? no CIA has located his general areas and GPS's some vehicle they've tracked down to him....all the technology and they still can't find him...heck Osama has done Video Tapes since, whoever is giving the tapes to the media to televise...got it from somebody who must know somebody who know somebody...who knows where he's at.....

This Middle East situation has been around for decades and we only m ade it worse...and went over there under FALSE pretenses...these made up "hologrammed" WOMD's (weapons of mass destruction) ...

But yes...there have been countlesss and senseless lives lost in this conflict..but sadly....This is how WAR is....casualties of war....I'm just glad we are being somewhat kept up to some date..and not like the Vietnam War,where soldiers were treated like scum of the Earth..dog-ish stuck on a shoe..and many lives were MIA to POW's...horrific war stories...

sorry for the montage of war issues/questions...but yes the cost is far reaching and we haven't seen anything yet....

[TJ dad]

Curious1, there are Jewish-American soldiers fighting in this war. I am a soldier and personally know a couple. I'm sure there are many more, but they all look white to me, therefore one can't distinguish them until they tell you.

[Terminal Server]

Yes, I knew. It makes me sick to my stomach. It is very difficult for me to discuss the Iraq debacle without getting emotional. I detest this war and all the misleading lies and hyperbole the war hawks bleat; "We're fighting a war on terror and can't cut and run". I was talking to a young Marine last night who just got back from his tour in Iraq. He has two more years left and he'll be making another tour before his enlistment is up. I had a long talk with this young man. I couldn't help myself. When I go to the Balboa Naval Medical Hospital San Diego, it is very disturbing and sad to see so many young men and women coming back missing legs, arms, body parts, blind, horribly burned, etc.

As I got out of my car, I noticed a service member struggling at the back of his pick up truck. When I looked closer, I noticed he was attempting to get his wheel chair from the back. He had one leg and one arm. I wonder how many of the rabid political pundits who are pro-war, have sons and daughters with one leg and one arm from the occupation in Iraq? Any takers...?????

[Terminal Server]

This is going to sound stupid...but I was wondering are there many to any Jewish soldiers "fighting" in this conflict...or is it against the Jews religion to join the military ..like here...I know they "fight" when in Isreal and Iraq borders...but do and are the Jewish soldiers fighting from USA over there...let alone "being killed" in this conflict

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Yes, there are people of Jewish decent and belief in the military. I served with a few. It doesn't matter. You will find a wide cross section of Americans (and non-Americans) serving in the military. No exclusion because of race, ethnicity, sex, religion or geographic origin.

[darkwing69]

regardless of our views about this war we must continue to pray and support those in harms way

[True]

Originally Posted by mlc0908

I wonder just how many of us actually know or even care about whats going on and what it actually costs. I can honestly say that not a day goes without knowing just how many we have lost in Iraq and I give thanks to Lou Dobbs and CNN for reports and updates on a daily basis that keep me in the know.