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December 15th, 2004, 04:36 PM
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I am not getting yall I never once said that the man wasnt wrong I never implied that or said it indirectly , all I stated that no matter what happened it should have been kept out of the media and dealt with ... it has already been said that the man call Karl and told him to stay the F away from his wife ... what else do you all want a execution live on tv... cmon you mean to tell me that If i hit on ya girl DB you would come to me and after doing so tell the whole freakin world , even when u so called dealt with the situation ...cmon cat it is serious true but not to the extent that you bring the world into your home ... me personally I like to keep my work and my home life seperated though the 2 may over lap at times you keep home at home unless ya wife is there working right beside you .... is that clear can yall hear me now ????
Like I said no has sympathy for his cat, F the high ground he should just keep his mouth closed and play ball AND let his actions speak louder than all of the crap coming out of his mouth if it aint about basketball ... and keep his private life just that PRIVATE!!!!
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December 15th, 2004, 04:41 PM
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zzzz....zzzzz.....zzzzz....i thought someone said somethin real i guess not........zzzz....z..zzzzz..z.z.z.z..mmmmph.....y o since you interuppted my slumber i will say something....zzzzz .zz.z.z.zzzz...oh yeah here i go it is ok to say something about somebodies race, or creed, or whatever when they are talking S in the first place when they shouldn't have been, the fact that race was mentioned (although a flashpoint for those who must derive personal meaning from words instead understanding them for their intended use), is secondary to the fact that kobe's wife needs to shut the F up and watch the games and clean the crib or pay somebody to do it, she can tell her husband that is fine but dont do it to start somethin, if she was not prepared to defend herself then she needs to shut up, she is not part of the team she has no reason to ask karl malone anything especially who he is hunting......zzzz....yawn.....boredom...setting in......getting sleepy.....zzz.z.zzzzz.z.z.zz....OH YEAH I say you ask a smart question you get a smart answer...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
slickbitty nothin personal i understand what you are saying i just happen to think that this is a situation where a child was talkin to an adult and got put into her place for talkin out of turn or being out of pocket or marrying a pro ballplayer with serious psychological problems so she could take the money out of, his pockets
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December 15th, 2004, 04:57 PM
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zzzz....zzzzz.....zzzzz....i thought someone said somethin real i guess not........zzzz....z..zzzzz..z.z.z.z..mmmmph.....y o since you interuppted my slumber i will say something....zzzzz .zz.z.z.zzzz...oh yeah here i go it is ok to say something about somebodies race, or creed, or whatever when they are talking S in the first place when they shouldn't have been, the fact that race was mentioned (although a flashpoint for those who must derive personal meaning from words instead understanding them for their intended use), is secondary to the fact that kobe's wife needs to shut the F up and watch the games and clean the crib or pay somebody to do it, she can tell her husband that is fine but dont do it to start somethin, if she was not prepared to defend herself then she needs to shut up, she is not part of the team she has no reason to ask karl malone anything especially who he is hunting......zzzz....yawn.....boredom...setting in......getting sleepy.....zzz.z.zzzzz.z.z.zz....OH YEAH I say you ask a smart question you get a smart answer...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
slickbitty nothin personal i understand what you are saying i just happen to think that this is a situation where a child was talkin to an adult and got put into her place for talkin out of turn or being out of pocket or marrying a pro ballplayer with serious psychological problems so she could take the money out of, his pockets
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sweetie...if it wasn't personal, you could have left out that diatribe at the beginning..i'm a college educated 37 year old. I believe my very first line in my reply was that it's obvious we're not going to agree....and with that dear, i'm moving on.....chat with you in another post...
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i just had to reprint this because it just READS so well.... |
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December 15th, 2004, 05:08 PM
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i just had to reprint this because it just READS so well....
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I'll say this much, it's clear we are not going to agree on this. That being said this is soooo very similar to the Artest situation that it's not funny - minus the fisticuffs and chair hurtling. I won't ask why, because that's apparently the question that's getting folks on the defensive...let's try it this way.
When is it ever appropriate to insult someone because of their creed, color, race, looks, religion....pick a cause? The answer should be NEVER. Now if we're all in agreement on that, then KARL was wrong for saying what he said. Vanessa is not wrong for telling her husband, I would tell my husband if someone had offended me. It would then be up to the both of us to discuss how to best handle this situation. Could Kobe have settled this more amicably? Definately, but he's proven what kind of person he is. Did Vanessa know this? Probably, but she is not Kobe's mother, she's his wife. There is a different.
The issue is the insult...He apologized for it, he said through his agent that he said it....Personal Culpability....i'll even include the definition:
1 archaic : GUILTY, CRIMINAL
2 : meriting condemnation or blame especially as wrong or harmful <culpable negligence>
Until people start recognizing this and accepting responsiblity for their Ignorant *** negligent behavior...you will have ordinary people going at it, just like you have superstars. Or would you just rather watch Jerry Springer...
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December 15th, 2004, 10:01 PM
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Kobe broke the most basic code that men live by. It is not about morality, its about not b!tching to another man's wife. Kobe, if it were at all possible, has lost more respect.
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December 15th, 2004, 10:07 PM
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what kind of mans code is that? Uh, I thought the more important code was to respect another man's wife.
com'n bruh
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December 15th, 2004, 10:21 PM
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what kind of mans code is that? Uh, I thought the more important code was to respect another man's wife.
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Absolutely respect another man's wife. However, addressing Karl's wife is not the best way to rectify the situation. I think they are both wrong.
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December 16th, 2004, 01:06 AM
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Wow, this thread got deep. I'm not a Kobe fan, nonetheless, If we look at the foundation of this whole conversation, Vanessa asked this man what is he hunting. That to me is such a loaded question that you would only ask a real good friend or someone who you want to be better friends with. The answer was honest and it was not volunteered, it was ASKED of him. She started something and couldn't back it up and then went and got her daddy, I mean husband to go beat him up on the school yard. Her husband shows his immaturaty by allowing the situation to go as far as it did. I would be questioning my wife, what business it it of yours what the man is hunting? Check out home first, Don't let her punk you Kobe.
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December 16th, 2004, 03:07 AM
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^I kinda agree. And I'm sorry, but Kobe shouldn't have taken it public. The Mexican women comment was probably flirtin, and true, Karl Malone shouldn't have hit on his wife, but Kobe's done worse. On top of that, he coulda just talked to Karl Malone, straight up, like a real man would've done, instead of resorting to threats and tellin everybody else about it. When it's about you and it's so open out in the media because YOU put it out there, then you're making it everyone else's business, which gives Deion the right to say whatever he wants about it, IMO.
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December 16th, 2004, 09:48 AM
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see that is what I said earlier but people aint listening or better yet aint reading ....
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