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Originally Posted by Man_in_Minnesota
i find it vomit-inducing that nobody has not said already that Vanessa needs to shut up and be a good quiet wife and not start nothin between her husband and the people he works with. If she is big enough to say something in the first place then she should be big enough to take care of it herself and not run to her husband when she started trouble in the first place, Karl did no wrong someone said something they should not have and they got dealt with and now Kobe has to be the big man or his wife might cheat on him. Let us not be high and mighty about this karl said nothing inappropriate he snapped on kobe;s wife when she trited to talk mess about his lack of style.
yawn i am getting tired of the moral high ground...zzz...zzz
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I'll say this much, it's clear we are not going to agree on this. That being said this is soooo very similar to the Artest situation that it's not funny - minus the fisticuffs and chair hurtling. I won't ask why, because that's apparently the question that's getting folks on the defensive...let's try it this way.
When is it ever appropriate to insult someone because of their creed, color, race, looks, religion....pick a cause? The answer should be NEVER. Now if we're all in agreement on that, then KARL was wrong for saying what he said. Vanessa is not wrong for telling her husband, I would tell my husband if someone had offended me. It would then be up to the both of us to discuss how to best handle this situation. Could Kobe have settled this more amicably? Definately, but he's proven what kind of person he is. Did Vanessa know this? Probably, but she is not Kobe's mother, she's his wife. There is a different.
The issue is the insult...He apologized for it, he said through his agent that he said it....Personal Culpability....i'll even include the definition:
1 archaic : GUILTY, CRIMINAL
2 : meriting condemnation or blame especially as wrong or harmful <culpable
negligence>
Until people start recognizing this and accepting responsiblity for their Ignorant *** negligent behavior...you will have ordinary people going at it, just like you have superstars. Or would you just rather watch Jerry Springer...