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Old December 15th, 2004, 12:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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wait a minute I aint sayin Karl Malone is a Angel and if you read my lil piece you will see that all I was sayin that he did not need to put it in the press .. but could have left it between the 2 of them that is all I stated ....
 
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Old December 15th, 2004, 01:12 PM   #12 (permalink)
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wait a minute I aint sayin Karl Malone is a Angel and if you read my lil piece you will see that all I was sayin that he did not need to put it in the press .. but could have left it between the 2 of them that is all I stated ....
Exactly Ren, its how he's handling this that's an issue for people. I guess that ain't comprehensive enough.
 
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Old December 15th, 2004, 01:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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again i say

if it was anyone other than kobe, we wouldn't be hearin' bout this....


no actually if Karl hadn't made that blatantly biggoted remark (that even he said he apologized for)....we wouldn't be talkin' bout this.
 
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Old December 15th, 2004, 02:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
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no you had it right the first time ... see that is the problem even if he had said that playfully or not Kobe should not have brought it to the media ... it was nobodys business but those parties involved ...now slick I agree with you even though we aint a 100% sure if he even said these words because remember we aint heard from Karl ... he aint doing whaT kOBE DOING AIGHT HE IS TRYIN TO KEEP IT IN HOUSE rather than doing what Kobe does best is bring everything to the public ....

Like I said earlier he needs to shut his mouth to the public and play ball .... no one has any symapthy for this cat ... so he should just play ball and shut his DAMN mouth !!!!!
 
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Old December 15th, 2004, 03:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The key phrase here is know your role, Kobe's wife needs to keep her mouth shut when dealing with other players and stay busy satisfying her man who is bringing home the bacon, forget about what "prime time" said or what Karl said lets focus on why Vanessa wants to ruin her mans life. She needs to be givin it up at least three to four times a week maybe two times a day so her husband can focus on basketball instead of who is putting his wife in her place. kudos to Mr.. Malone for telling Vanessa she needs to keep her mouth shut.

Vanessa clean up the got damn kitchen, Kobe stop lettin that woman run your life, karl next time she says anything to you like that put your foot in her but like Kobe did that girl in Colorado.
 
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Old December 15th, 2004, 03:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
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no you had it right the first time ... see that is the problem even if he had said that playfully or not Kobe should not have brought it to the media ... it was nobodys business but those parties involved ...now slick I agree with you even though we aint a 100% sure if he even said these words because remember we aint heard from Karl ... he aint doing whaT kOBE DOING AIGHT HE IS TRYIN TO KEEP IT IN HOUSE rather than doing what Kobe does best is bring everything to the public ....

Like I said earlier he needs to shut his mouth to the public and play ball .... no one has any symapthy for this cat ... so he should just play ball and shut his DAMN mouth !!!!!
I find it vomit-inducing that you keep harping on Kobe going to the media. It appears that you really see no wrong in Karl's behavior, so let me make sure by asking you to clarify this-

Tell me, which do you think is worse:

1. Making innappropriate gestures/advances on someone's wife
2. Going public about a man disrespecting your wife/marriage

Can't wait to get your answer.:D
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Old December 15th, 2004, 03:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
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i find it vomit-inducing that nobody has not said already that Vanessa needs to shut up and be a good quiet wife and not start nothin between her husband and the people he works with. If she is big enough to say something in the first place then she should be big enough to take care of it herself and not run to her husband when she started trouble in the first place, Karl did no wrong someone said something they should not have and they got dealt with and now Kobe has to be the big man or his wife might cheat on him. Let us not be high and mighty about this karl said nothing inappropriate he snapped on kobe;s wife when she trited to talk mess about his lack of style.

yawn i am getting tired of the moral high ground...zzz...zzz
 
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Old December 15th, 2004, 04:26 PM   #18 (permalink)
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even if malone did hit on kobe's wife why make it public....it just seems kobe is looking for attention and he is willing to get anyway he can....malone is not right for hitting on kobe's wife but the public doesnt need to know everything. I believe some things should be private( for only the individuls that it affects.[b]
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i find it vomit-inducing that nobody has not said already that Vanessa needs to shut up and be a good quiet wife and not start nothin between her husband and the people he works with. If she is big enough to say something in the first place then she should be big enough to take care of it herself and not run to her husband when she started trouble in the first place, Karl did no wrong someone said something they should not have and they got dealt with and now Kobe has to be the big man or his wife might cheat on him. Let us not be high and mighty about this karl said nothing inappropriate he snapped on kobe;s wife when she trited to talk mess about his lack of style.

yawn i am getting tired of the moral high ground...zzz...zzz

I'll say this much, it's clear we are not going to agree on this. That being said this is soooo very similar to the Artest situation that it's not funny - minus the fisticuffs and chair hurtling. I won't ask why, because that's apparently the question that's getting folks on the defensive...let's try it this way.

When is it ever appropriate to insult someone because of their creed, color, race, looks, religion....pick a cause? The answer should be NEVER. Now if we're all in agreement on that, then KARL was wrong for saying what he said. Vanessa is not wrong for telling her husband, I would tell my husband if someone had offended me. It would then be up to the both of us to discuss how to best handle this situation. Could Kobe have settled this more amicably? Definately, but he's proven what kind of person he is. Did Vanessa know this? Probably, but she is not Kobe's mother, she's his wife. There is a different.

The issue is the insult...He apologized for it, he said through his agent that he said it....Personal Culpability....i'll even include the definition:
1 archaic : GUILTY, CRIMINAL
2 : meriting condemnation or blame especially as wrong or harmful <culpable negligence>

Until people start recognizing this and accepting responsiblity for their Ignorant *** negligent behavior...you will have ordinary people going at it, just like you have superstars. Or would you just rather watch Jerry Springer...
 
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Old December 15th, 2004, 04:35 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I find it vomit-inducing that you keep harping on Kobe going to the media. It appears that you really see no wrong in Karl's behavior, so let me make sure by asking you to clarify this-

Tell me, which do you think is worse:

1. Making innappropriate gestures/advances on someone's wife
2. Going public about a man disrespecting your wife/marriage

Can't wait to get your answer.:D
I am not getting yall I never once said that the man wasnt wrong I never implied that or said it indirectly , all I stated that no matter what happened it should have been kept out of the media and dealt with ... it has already been said that the man call Karl and told him to stay the F away from his wife ... what else do you all want a execution live on tv... cmon you mean to tell me that If i hit on ya girl DB you would come to me and after doing so tell the whole freakin world , even when u so called dealt with the situation ...cmon cat it is serious terue but not to the extent that you bring the world into your home ... me personally I like to keep my work and my home life seperated though the 2 may over lap at times you keep home at home unless ya wife is there working right beside you .... is that clear can yall hear me now ????

Like I said no has sympathy for his cat, F the high ground he should just keep his mouth closed and play ball AND let his actions speak louder than all of the crap coming out of his mouth if it aint about basketball ... and keep his private life just that PRIVATE!!!!
 
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