Policing the Police

[robbboy2003]

Originally Posted by Istlota

Yes, we are in a war with people who want to kill us. No argument there. Even worse, the police are just a few of the soldiers fighting for the other side. White Folks have been quietly preparing for an urban uprising for decades. If they ever thought we had the cops on the run, overnight, they would bring in the National Guard, the Army, the Navy, the Marines, the Air Force, the FBI, and a long list of other enforcement agencies.

We are at war. We have to start thinking like soldiers, smart soldiers, realistic soldiers. Look around us. Take a good long look at your fellow black citizen-soldiers. Our troops are totally demoralized. They talk a lot of smack about what we ought to do to white folks for what they have, and are, doing to us. But, the truth is that we, black folks, are afraid of white folks -- not necessarily afraid of them as individuals, but certainly we fear them as a group. There is no other rational explanation for why we, generation after generation, still put up with their crap.

Since we are not, collectively, motivated to engage our enemy in physical confrontations, a smart general will have to come up with weapons his soldiers are prepared to use in an effective manner. And, right now, video-ing the cops is about as radical as most black folk can handle.

Black Folks are afraid of what they perceive as the insurmountable power and influence of white folks. We do not admit this, not even to ourselves. And, that is a mistake. Because the first step towards getting rid of that fear is to recognize that we suffer from it.

There are understandable reasons why we have this fear. Several generations of seeing your brothers, fathers, and sons hung up on trees with their genitals removed would create one monumental mind warp on any cultural group.

Here is just one example of how our enemy messed with our head. The year is 1652. A group of white folks, claiming to be Christian missionaries, show up on the Cape of Africa. They come with their bibles, of course, and immediately proceed to evangelize the black "savages" who currently live there. This eventually led to a day those white "missionaries" celebrate to this very day. They, the Afrikaners, call that day of celebration the Great Trek. This was the day that a group of cowardly, demonic white folks, using their guns, filled the Blood River with the bodies of 3000 Zulus who valiantly, but in vain, fought back with spears. After the slaughter, those pious white Christians bowed their heads and thanked their white god for the victory.

Even worse, there were a few black slaves who helped their Massas kill those Zulus. It was just like in the old Tarzan movies when slaves would help Bwana fight the "heathens" who dared to fight to prevent Bwana from strolling in and stealing their land and its resources.

Even now, in the year 2007, you can still find good slaves sitting on the US Supreme Court, serving on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and flying all over the world as Secretary of State -- still helping Bwana kill the "heathens" who rise up to prevent Bwana from stealing their land and their resources.

And, even now, good slaves are still bowing down to that same false god, still unaware that the God of Jesus, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob could not possibly be the same white god that those white murderous missionaries pray to.

Wake up, Children of Zion.

Great Post! Yes, do not be confused and too accepting of whitey,because if given the chance many will show you their true colors of being a pig and a bastard! Keep speaking on it brother!

[The Dragon]

Istlota,

We all know that if we as a group Black people decided to confront the police in a physical way they would be more than happy to drop bombs on us and use all the new war technology that they have been inventing.

We do have something at our disposal: It is called "gangs." It is a known fact that gangs and gang violence rises when their is poverty and oppression of the people. I am originally from LA and I tell you they got every kind of gang you can think up.

It is just to bad that our gangs who are really street warriors, have never been taught who it was they were supposed to be pointing their guns at.

Just too damned bad.

[The Dragon]

Originally Posted by DBlack

Great idea! I like the idea of putting more focus on corrupt cops. But I have to depart from the concept of knowing where their kids and immediate family live and thrive. The wife and kids don't deserve to pay the price for their deeds. They will pay enough, if their cop/hubby/father gets caught and is brought to justice.

These rogue cops sure don't mind killing our wives and children. Every time I look around a cop has killed a young Black boy. It is called genocide. And I am wondering what we are planning to eventually do about this.

[Istlota]

Originally Posted by The Dragon

These rogue cops sure don't mind killing our wives and children. Every time I look around a cop has killed a young Black boy. It is called genocide. And I am wondering what we are planning to eventually do about this.

Fortunately, we have an excellent historical template to follow -- that of Steve Biko (who was for non-violence until it was not longer a sane strategy), Nelson Mandela and the ANC (who, again, used non-violence until it was no longer sane to do so), and Umknonto we Sizwe (the Spear of the Nation).

Nelson Mandela
"I did not plan it in a spirit of recklessness, nor because I have any love of violence. I planned it as a result of calm and sober assessment of the political situation that had arisen after many years of tyranny, exploitation, and oppression of my people by the Whites."

As we cast about for strategies to end police brutality, we must ask ourselves, are we expressing rage, spoken in a spirit of recklessness - or have we calmly, soberly, put together a plan that is capable of achieving our desired result?

Talk of gang bangers being used to fight the police is an expression of rage and recklessness, not the calm, sober thinking of soldiers educated in the Art of War.

If we ever reach a place where violence is the only sane option, and we are nowhere near that place today, we had better make damn sure we proceed with as much calm and sobriety as Biko, Mandela, Tambo, the ANC, and Umkhonto we Sizwe demonstrated.

[The Dragon]

Originally Posted by Istlota

Fortunately, we have an excellent historical template to follow -- that of Steve Biko (who was for non-violence until it was not longer a sane strategy), Nelson Mandela and the ANC (who, again, used non-violence until it was no longer sane to do so), and Umknonto we Sizwe (the Spear of the Nation).

Nelson Mandela
"I did not plan it in a spirit of recklessness, nor because I have any love of violence. I planned it as a result of calm and sober assessment of the political situation that had arisen after many years of tyranny, exploitation, and oppression of my people by the Whites."

As we cast about for strategies to end police brutality, we must ask ourselves, are we expressing rage, spoken in a spirit of recklessness - or have we calmly, soberly, put together a plan that is capable of achieving our desired result?

Talk of gang bangers being used to fight the police is an expression of rage and recklessness, not the calm, sober thinking of soldiers educated in the Art of War.

If we ever reach a place where violence is the only sane option, and we are nowhere near that place today, we had better make damn sure we proceed with as much calm and sobriety as Biko, Mandela, Tambo, the ANC, and Umkhonto we Sizwe demonstrated.

Good post. But we need more than one avenue to fight this injustice. And when I mentioned gangs I wasn't talking about rounding any up. I'm speaking of the simple fact that our people have not really been thoroughly taught about how to deal with this issue. This is true whether you are a gangbanger, have read "The Art of War" one hundred times or if you are the local church trying to get involved.

We are small numbered and very sporadic and divided when dealing with this issue.

I just believe we would be more successfull with a more aggressive approach concerning when it comes to police brutality.

[Istlota]

Originally Posted by The Dragon

Good post. But we need more than one avenue to fight this injustice. And when I mentioned gangs I wasn't talking about rounding any up. I'm speaking of the simple fact that our people have not really been thoroughly taught about how to deal with this issue. This is true whether you are a gangbanger, have read "The Art of War" one hundred times or if you are the local church trying to get involved.

We are small numbered and very sporadic and divided when dealing with this issue.

I just believe we would be more successfull with a more aggressive approach concerning when it comes to police brutality.

The disunity you mention is a problem. I am currently studying Steve Biko's teachings regarding "Black Consciousness" - in particular, his points about blacks needing to take an "inward look", recognizing how apartheid has scarred our personality and damaged our self-esteem.

I am convinced that we are destined to bring an end, finally, to the worldwide plague of White Supremacy. If there is a God, and I believe there is, then, by definiton, It, whose Being is Love Incarnate, has already structured events leading to an end to this world's wicked system. White Supremacy is a seam that runs throughout this world system. So, it, as well, must be done away with. All the ancient prophecies predict this.

I am convinced, as Dr. King often said, that there is a Cosmic Force that struggles with us. With such an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent force struggling with us, victory is assured.

But, to achieve our inevitable victory, we first have to move beyond our self-defeatist tendencies to shoot down each other's ideas.

With that in mind, I am curious as to, specifically, what more aggressive strategies you, or anyone else reading this, can suggest to combat police brutality?

[MadameX]

Originally Posted by DBlack

But I have to depart from the concept of knowing where their kids and immediate family live and thrive. The wife and kids don't deserve to pay the price for their deeds. They will pay enough, if their cop/hubby/father gets caught and is brought to justice.

Absolutely. This fact has to be kept in mind.

[The Dragon]

Originally Posted by Istlota

The disunity you mention is a problem. I am currently studying Steve Biko's teachings regarding "Black Consciousness" - in particular, his points about blacks needing to take an "inward look", recognizing how apartheid has scarred our personality and damaged our self-esteem.

I am convinced that we are destined to bring an end, finally, to the worldwide plague of White Supremacy. If there is a God, and I believe there is, then, by definiton, It, whose Being is Love Incarnate, has already structured events leading to an end to this world's wicked system. White Supremacy is a seam that runs throughout this world system. So, it, as well, must be done away with. All the ancient prophecies predict this.

I am convinced, as Dr. King often said, that there is a Cosmic Force that struggles with us. With such an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent force struggling with us, victory is assured.

But, to achieve our inevitable victory, we first have to move beyond our self-defeatist tendencies to shoot down each other's ideas.

With that in mind, I am curious as to, specifically, what more aggressive strategies you, or anyone else reading this, can suggest to combat police brutality?

"With that in mind, I am curious as to, specifically, what more aggressive strategies you, or anyone else reading this, can suggest to combat police brutality?"

I believe that more personal confrontations with the cops who are actually involved in these crimes is neccessary; We must also deal with the individual precincts specifically dealing with top precinct officials as I believe that they may carry attitudes that fellow subordinate officers mimic.

We gots to do more than march though. People are being murdered like animals. "We shall over come one day" just ain't gone get it.

We need to also come down on public officials such as local politicians. We have to MAKE them speak for the people.

These are just a few measures coming to mind and I'm not completely knocking the camera approach, IMO it just won't work by itself.

[Baba Ahmed]

Bickering with each other is counter productive often with added bruised egos.

All dat philosophical mish mash is cool for those who need to feel good. And u got dat.

I'm just offerring an added context, that was and now is. Obedient cops, like sworn to defend soldiers, - tho they promote to serve and protect - ever ask yourself WHO?

[Afro-descendant]

With that in mind, I am curious as to, specifically, what more aggressive strategies you, or anyone else reading this, can suggest to combat police brutality?

We need more Blacks to join the Police Departments and this will act as a deterrent for police brutality. You noticed I said Blacks, because if you noticed the Officers on the beat down no longer have European surnames.