Policing the Police

[MadameX]

After the videotaping of Rodney King, the saga continues.

[Istlota]

Originally Posted by afrocentric

(still chunking stuff out my closet) hey, i found my camera!........ummmm, now where did i put my battery plug at? damn, i should be organized! (still chunking)

Get a cell phone with a camera. Verizon let me upgrade my cell phone to one with a camera for only $50. Then, they gave me a $50 rebate for renewing my contract, so I am not out a dime. If they only knew what I planned to use the camera option for -- heh-heh-heh.

[afrocentric]

Originally Posted by Istlota

Get a cell phone with a camera. Verizon let me upgrade my cell phone to one with a camera for only $50. Then, they gave me a $50 rebate for renewing my contract, so I am not out a dime. If they only knew what I planned to use the camera option for -- heh-heh-heh.

ooooooh yeahhhhhh! dang, what was i thinking. i got motorola camera cellphone! mmmmmm, now if i only knew where my instructions booklet is. (opening & looking in drawers, found a piece of gum and chewing it)

[The Dragon]

Originally Posted by Istlota

That is a bad idea ... a really, really, really bad idea. Truth be told, it is exactly the sort of move that COINTEL would have setup back in the 60s. Some errant young brother reads the poster, goes to the cop's kid's school, harasses the kid, and in so doing gives the state perfectly legal grounds for shutting down Cop Watch LA and arresting all of its members.

Your best weapon against a racist is to make him believe you can send him to jail. But, to do so, you have to have airtight smoking gun video evidence, otherwise the sheeple who make it through the screening process for juries will let the cops walk every time. The value of Cop Watch LA is that, even though it will not embarrass the cops into behaving as homo sapiens, it will provide smoking gun video evidence that even the copper tops that serve on juries can not ignore. Hence, while the cops might still go to their grave wanting to walk on their knuckles and swing from trees, the desire to remain out of jail would cause them to, reluctantly, suppress their Neanderthal urges.

Seque. I am intrigued as to why you picked The Dragon as your name. In the book of Revelations, it is synonymous with Satan:

Revelations 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world. He was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

Just about everytime a cop does an injustice someone is taping it or there are scores of witnesses who can testify about what went down at the scene. And what do we get? Cops walking away free all of the time. All the damned time. The only reason some of the cops who beat Rodney King got away with little jail time is because the people came out and rioted and showed the higher powers that they weren't haven't that **** without some major consequences to dish out.

What about all the other incidents? Do you watch the news? Nobody gives a crap about your little video tape. I hope you never become a victim of police brutality.

Im not gonna even comment on the rest of that non-sense you wrote. We ain't in church anyway, we're in a chat forum.

[The Dragon]

Originally Posted by Baba Ahmed

The last time I can recall that neighborhood folk, and others, tired of cops' brutalities something called the BLA arose. So whether the above is a "bad idea" or not social conditions prod "rogue cops" and as was said back in the days, the dogs are loose in the streets!

Its normal for us older headz to talk more than we act. The youth? Well... imagine being done it as depicted above. Can u? And live to realize what happened?

Fears have slowed down many social frustrations; especially among our reasonable and socially comfortable reeking with wisdom old timers... but social frustrations have a way of bcoming social explosions. Unplanned. COINTELPRO or not. It is not invincible... is it?

A yung gang banga was heard to say, he told a cop: "u bleed too!" That damn sho' doesn't sound like an appeal to somebody's conscience. That's a reminder.

Don't seem like we have really learnerd from history, or maybe we just want to forget it, but truth is in a minute we are gonna be at boiling point over this situation and things will get rowdy for real. History repeats itself; All depends on which point of the history you want the continuity to continue. I don't want to be dealing with police brutality 50 years from now.

We are already using the camera concept and still get no justice. So what is our next plan? Talk with no actions means nothing, as Baba alluded to.

[Istlota]

Originally Posted by The Dragon

Don't seem like we have really learnerd from history, or maybe we just want to forget it, but truth is in a minute we are gonna be at boiling point over this situation and things will get rowdy for real. History repeats itself; All depends on which point of the history you want the continuity to continue. I don't want to be dealing with police brutality 50 years from now.

We are already using the camera concept and still get no justice. So what is our next plan? Talk with no actions means nothing, as Baba alluded to.

You are wrong about the camera approach not getting justice. Without video, police get patted on the back for a job well done after beating down people in the street. They even get medals, the height of hypocrisy, for risking their lives to protect society. But, because of the presence of video, two of the police officers who beat Robert Davis, the 64 year old retired school teacher, in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, got fired from the force:

2 New Orleans police officers fired / Videotape caught alleged beating of an unarmed man

But, it didn't stop there. One of those fired cops, Lance Schilling, committed suicide a few weeks ago rather than sit in a court room and answer for his crime:

Fredericksburg.com - Officer commits suicide prior to trial in beating

Just think about the ENORMOUS power we have at our disposal to, finally, end this plague of police brutality. Two rogue cops are now off the force. One of them is even off the planet. They will never again be able to hurt or kill another human being under cover of a badge. And, all this was accomplished without we, the people, having to sink to the level of the Bushes and the bin Ladens and resort to violence.

Every black person in America needs to run out, right today, and upgrade their cell phone to one that has a built-in camera.

[The Dragon]

Originally Posted by Istlota

You are wrong about the camera approach not getting justice. Without video, police get patted on the back for a job well done after beating down people in the street. They even get medals, the height of hypocrisy, for risking their lives to protect society. But, because of the presence of video, two of the police officers who beat Robert Davis, the 64 year old retired school teacher, in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, got fired from the force:

2 New Orleans police officers fired / Videotape caught alleged beating of an unarmed man

But, it didn't stop there. One of those fired cops, Lance Schilling, committed suicide a few weeks ago rather than sit in a court room and answer for his crime:

Fredericksburg.com - Officer commits suicide prior to trial in beating

Just think about the ENORMOUS power we have at our disposal to, finally, end this plague of police brutality. Two rogue cops are now off the force. One of them is even off the planet. They will never again be able to hurt or kill another human being under cover of a badge. And, all this was accomplished without we, the people, having to sink to the level of the Bushes and the bin Ladens and resort to violence.

Every black person in America needs to run out, right today, and upgrade their cell phone to one that has a built-in camera.

Wow! A little something, something called justice in this case. They keep this up we'll eventually end up doing alright.

But of course you have never heard of Devin Brown and little Susie Pena'. How about Amodou Diallo (sp). What about the young brotha that got smoked by NYPD on his wedding night? What about so many other people who are now deceased and the cops got off scot free?

What about all them killings in Ohio of young Black men being shot down like dear; No justice. All these people are dead.

What about the young man in LA who got beat upside the head with a flash light? Punched all in the back of his neck and head; Everything caught on camera. What did this young man do? According the witness statements per the media, he simply did not answer the barbarian when he was being questioned, Why? The young man was reportedly deaf.

The cops get of free and the main cop who did most of the beating wins a multimillion dollar judgement. Hes a millionair for beating on a deaf, defenseless 17 year old boy for no sound reason at all.

That New Orleans case sure does make me feel better.

[Istlota]

Originally Posted by The Dragon

Wow! A little something, something called justice in this case. They keep this up we'll eventually end up doing alright.

But of course you have never heard of Devin Brown and little Susie Pena'. How about Amodou Diallo (sp). What about the young brotha that got smoked by NYPD on his wedding night? What about so many other people who are now deceased and the cops got off scot free?

What about all them killing is Ohio of young Black men being shot down like dear; No justice. All these people are dead.

What about the young man in LA who got beat upside the head with a flash light? Punched all in the back of his neck and head; Everything caught on camera. What did this young man do? According the witness statements per the media, he simply did not answer the barbarian when he was being questioned, Why? The young man was reportedly deaf.

The cops get of free and the main cop who did most of the beating wins a multimillion dollar judgement. Hes a millionair for beating on a deaf, defenseless 17 year old boy for no sound reason at all.

That New Orleans case sure does make me feel better.

Yes, we are in a war with people who want to kill us. No argument there. Even worse, the police are just a few of the soldiers fighting for the other side. White Folks have been quietly preparing for an urban uprising for decades. If they ever thought we had the cops on the run, overnight, they would bring in the National Guard, the Army, the Navy, the Marines, the Air Force, the FBI, and a long list of other enforcement agencies.

We are at war. We have to start thinking like soldiers, smart soldiers, realistic soldiers. Look around us. Take a good long look at your fellow black citizen-soldiers. Our troops are totally demoralized. They talk a lot of smack about what we ought to do to white folks for what they have, and are, doing to us. But, the truth is that we, black folks, are afraid of white folks -- not necessarily afraid of them as individuals, but certainly we fear them as a group. There is no other rational explanation for why we, generation after generation, still put up with their crap.

Since we are not, collectively, motivated to engage our enemy in physical confrontations, a smart general will have to come up with weapons his soldiers are prepared to use in an effective manner. And, right now, video-ing the cops is about as radical as most black folk can handle.

Black Folks are afraid of what they perceive as the insurmountable power and influence of white folks. We do not admit this, not even to ourselves. And, that is a mistake. Because the first step towards getting rid of that fear is to recognize that we suffer from it.

There are understandable reasons why we have this fear. Several generations of seeing your brothers, fathers, and sons hung up on trees with their genitals removed would create one monumental mind warp on any cultural group.

Here is just one example of how our enemy messed with our head. The year is 1652. A group of white folks, claiming to be Christian missionaries, show up on the Cape of Africa. They come with their bibles, of course, and immediately proceed to evangelize the black "savages" who currently live there. This eventually led to a day those white "missionaries" celebrate to this very day. They, the Afrikaners, call that day of celebration the Great Trek. This was the day that a group of cowardly, demonic white folks, using their guns, filled the Blood River with the bodies of 3000 Zulus who valiantly, but in vain, fought back with spears. After the slaughter, those pious white Christians bowed their heads and thanked their white god for the victory.

Even worse, there were a few black slaves who helped their Massas kill those Zulus. It was just like in the old Tarzan movies when slaves would help Bwana fight the "heathens" who dared to fight to prevent Bwana from strolling in and stealing their land and its resources.

Even now, in the year 2007, you can still find good slaves sitting on the US Supreme Court, serving on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and flying all over the world as Secretary of State -- still helping Bwana kill the "heathens" who rise up to prevent Bwana from stealing their land and their resources.

And, even now, good slaves are still bowing down to that same false god, still unaware that the God of Jesus, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob could not possibly be the same white god that those white murderous missionaries pray to.

Wake up, Children of Zion.

[Baba Ahmed]

Well I accept your wake up call to the Children of Zion, even if I'm not a child of Zion.

Onanother note, do we not realize that to be filmed by cops is not a ticket to paradise? Can we not see the creeping signs of a Police State blanketing this nation? Does any of us remember some of the horrors of Hitler's Germany, replete with Gestapos and brown shirt Storm Troopers, who backed a nationwide civilian snitching service, wherein children would accuse their own parents of aiding white Jews?

Those self same "cameras" already in use in London and other English cities and towns and here in Atlanta have not brought any semblance of Justice for us. A case here and there that generally might result in a civil suit can be seen as test cases, stretching boundaries of legalities.

Damn! I mean we really must be fear laden as white folk generally are. What's "good for europeans (and video armed cops ain't bottom line good)" ain't necessarily good for Black & Brown people in this god-forsaken land. Cops are nothing less than homefront military; both train professional killers and obedient pawns. Cameras are just another tool in their arsenals. Remember now, already cameras are used at public professional sports gatherings.

Can't we see signs of another Civil (fratricidal) War in the airs of this nation. The NWO adherents are bum rushing over everybody else. They have allegiance to no order than the NWO crew which violates any nation's rules and laws. Some of this was/is seen in today's Iraqi occupation; a place where its reported that there're more "private contractors" than there are military solders! This is already a new faced fascist run nation. Why do we keep dreaming for Justice in this nation. What some of us don't seem to dig is that what's Just to Europeans and their lackies is unjust to us. Don't be distracted by occasional images of justice for Black people. I dare say for every step in Justice's light calls for 5 steps backward to when publically it was known that we have no rights that white folk are bound to respect.

None.


Peace among us.

[DBlack]

Great idea! I like the idea of putting more focus on corrupt cops. But I have to depart from the concept of knowing where their kids and immediate family live and thrive. The wife and kids don't deserve to pay the price for their deeds. They will pay enough, if their cop/hubby/father gets caught and is brought to justice.