Obama Now Under Secret Service Protection

[Istlota]

I dug up a story that has a picture of the guy, Davit Zakaryan, who was arrested -- white, with the same blank look in his eyes as Sirhan Sirhan had.

cbs2chicago.com - Man Goes To Court For Obama Security Scare

The guy gave the cops all sorts of conflicting stories, but he did admit he was waiting to "see" Senator Obama. Apparently, he needed a knife with a 8 1/2 inch blade to help him "see" better.

Get this. He stalked a US Senator, carrying a 8 1/2 inch blade, for which he could give the cops no reason for having, driving around without a license (it is important to hide the true identity of such killer drones), yet his bail is only $7000!

Being the paranoid brutha that I have allowed white supremacy to turn me into, I could not help but note how the knives being carried by these pseudo-anonymous-assailants-of-famous-negroes killer drones keep getting bigger and bigger.

Izola Curry used a letter opener on Dr. King -- he survived. We never heard anything more about her since. Truth is, the media never did tell us anything about her, other than that she was deranged and tried to take out Dr. King.

Michael Ricarddi, somehow, managed to get past a crowd of NY's finest to stab Sharpton with a 5 inch blade -- Sharpton survived. Again, we have heard nothing more about Riccardi since -- other than when Sharpton, like a good slave, announced he forgave Riccardi and then asked the judge for a lesser sentence.

I guess, with Obama, someone decided to send in the drone with a larger knife this time, to make sure the intended victim did not survive.

[Diva810]

I'm glad he has this protection but why he needs it saddens me. Like someone said above, this country is not ready for him. However, we're not ready for a lot of things and we handle them. I'm pulling for Obama and would love to see him be president. I think he can do it.

[SchoolofSoul]

Originally Posted by Istlota

other than when Sharpton, like a good slave, announced he forgave Riccardi

Forgiveness is a primary aspect of the Christian faith Rev. Sharpton professes. Forgiving your enemies and those who attack you makes one a good Christian, not a good slave.

[Istlota]

Originally Posted by SchoolofSoul

Forgiveness is a primary aspect of the Christian faith Rev. Sharpton professes. Forgiving your enemies and those who attack you makes one a good Christian, not a good slave.

Yes, Jesus taught that we should forgive our enemies. But, what does that have to do with Christianity?

White Christians are on the TV all the time now, 24/7. They have their own satellite channels. I used to watch them all the time, but not so much anymore. I have yet to hear one of them say they forgive Osama bin Laden. Nor have I heard Sharpton say he forgives Osama bin Laden.

Obama is a Christian. But, I assure you, he would never ask his fellow Americans to forgive Osama bin Laden. That is what Jesus would do. But, it is not what a good Christian, or a good slave, would do.

War and forgiveness are mutually exclusive. Yet, the self-proclaimed "war president" won a majority of the Christian vote in 2004.

How do you explain all these inconsistencies -- other than to concede that the works of Christians do not match up with the teachings of Jesus?

James, the brother of Jesus, taught that faith without works is dead. Well, what that means to me is that Christianity is a dead religion. This is the problem I have with Christianity. I can embrace the teachings of Jesus and reject Christianity. Or, I can reject the teachings of Jesus, and embrace Christianity. But, I can not, honestly, embrace both.

Christians are always saying to me, look at Jesus, don't look at Christians. But, when I do, and I point out the rather obvious contradictions between Jesus and Christians -- they remain married to Christianity and I remain married to Jesus.

[SchoolofSoul]

Originally Posted by Istlota

Yes, Jesus taught that we should forgive our enemies. But, what does that have to do with Christianity?

Originally Posted by Istlota

White Christians are on the TV all the time now, 24/7. They have their own satellite channels. I used to watch them all the time, but not so much anymore. I have yet to hear one of them say they forgive Osama bin Laden. Nor have I heard Sharpton say he forgives Osama bin Laden.

I bet there's a lot of things you haven't heard people say on TV.

Originally Posted by Istlota

Obama is a Christian. But, I assure you, he would never ask his fellow Americans to forgive Osama bin Laden. That is what Jesus would do. But, it is not what a good Christian, or a good slave, would do.

A good Christian would not do what Jesus would do? That's funny.

Originally Posted by Istlota

War and forgiveness are mutually exclusive. Yet, the self-proclaimed "war president" won a majority of the Christian vote in 2004.

The conservative Christian right wing, maybe. Not the Christian left wing.

Originally Posted by Istlota

How do you explain all these inconsistencies -- other than to concede that the works of Christians do not match up with the teachings of Jesus?

Oh, I fully acknowledge that there are many Christians who do not match up with the teachings of Jesus. We are all sinners who fall short of the glory of God. That's why we need Him.

Originally Posted by Istlota

James, the brother of Jesus, taught that faith without works is dead. Well, what that means to me is that Christianity is a dead religion. This is the problem I have with Christianity.

What works aren't being done in faith in the body of Christ?

The actions (or inactions) of Christians do not invalidate Christ's teachings.

Originally Posted by Istlota

I can embrace the teachings of Jesus and reject Christianity. Or, I can reject the teachings of Jesus, and embrace Christianity. But, I can not, honestly, embrace both.

Christians are always saying to me, look at Jesus, don't look at Christians. But, when I do, and I point out the rather obvious contradictions between Jesus and Christians -- they remain married to Christianity and I remain married to Jesus.

Your relationship with Christ is more important than your relationship with fellow believers. Naturally, it's desirable to fellowship with like-minded believers and worship together, but when that's not possible (for whatever reason), you always have your relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

What it appears that you're doing, however, is judging those who profess faith in Christ, for this reason or that reason, this hypocrisy or that contradiction. Judgment is not your call to make, it's God's. If your relationship with Christ forces you to break ties with a particular group of believers or leave a particular church or denomination, then you need to pray that God leads you to a group of believers or a denomination that fits you better.

1 Corinthians 12:12-14 - "The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body - whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free - and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. Now the body is not made up of one part but of many." This means each Christian is an equal part of the body of Christ.

[Istlota]

Originally Posted by SchoolofSoul

You danced all around it, but completely avoided responding to the crux of my argument, which is that it is hypocritical for a black man to forgive a white man who stabbed him, but not to forgive a Muslim who flew airplanes into buildings. Either you, as a true follower of the teachings of Jesus, forgive all your enemies --- or, you admit you are a good slave who is following the lead of White Folks -- not the bible, and certainly not Jesus -- who have dictated what is and is not acceptable Christian behavior.

Will Obama, or any other candidate running for Prez in 2008, express forgiveness for Osama bin Laden? Of course not. All of them have been running around the country expressing their deep commitment to Christianity. But, they also understand, as clearly as I do, that America's concept of Christianity has little to do with the teachings of Jesus.

Originally Posted by SchoolofSoul

The conservative Christian right wing, maybe. Not the Christian left wing.

To render your statement accurate, you should have said "whites" without any other qualifiers. I have mentioned before that CNN's demographics from the 2000 and 2004 election prove that _most_ whites voted for the "war president". Since most whites are Christians, this, again, proves in an inarguable manner that Ole Massa, despite all his rhetoric about Christians needing to forgive their enemies, has no intention of forgiving his enemies. Or, to put it as Ole Massa might, his idea of forgiveness is to love _and_ kill his enemies simultaneously. This has nothing to do with what Jesus taught, of course, but then that gets back to the crux of my argument, which is that White Folks have molded Christianity into whatever they want it to be on any given day.

Why is it so difficult for we black folks to draw a distinction between the teachings of Jesus and Christianity? I understand why White Folks avoid the question. But, why do we black folks, my people, people who have personally witnessed the burning crosses in our lawns, and our brothers/fathers/uncles hung from trees in mock imitation of the crucifixion of Jesus, and KKK members standing proudly with a bible in one hand and a gun in the other, and white Christian preachers standing in the pulpit and preaching whole sermons on how God cursed the sons of Ham --- and, now, preachers preaching the exact same sermon except they have replaced "the sons of Ham" with "Muslims" -- why do we, after witnessing all these contradictions of Christianity -- still cling so desperately to it?

Thousands of years ago, we were priests and pharaohs. Now we are good slaves and Negroes. We have always had the power to change this world system. We were birthed into this time to prepare the Way of the Messiah, not to accept the mark of the beast.

Wake up, children of Zion. Can you not hear our ancestors warning us that America's time is just about up? Come out from her lest you partake of her sins.

Hosea 4:1-6
"Hear the word of the Lord, you children of Israel, for the Lord has a controversy. For the Lord has a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, no mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land.

By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood touches blood.

Therefore, the land will mourn, and every one that dwells in it shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the birds of heaven. Yes, even the fish of the sea shall be taken away.

Yet, let no man contend, or argue with another. For your people are as those that argue with the priest.

Therefore, you shall fall in the day. And, the prophet shall fall in the night. And, I will destroy your mother.

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you shall be no priest to me: seeing that you have forgotten the law of your God, I will also forget your children."