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Old November 26th, 2006, 12:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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N.Y. police kill groom near strip club

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061126/...olice_shooting

By ADAM GOLDMAN, Associated Press Writer

November 25, 2006

NEW YORK - Police fired 50 rounds Saturday at a car of unarmed men leaving a bachelor party at a strip club, killing the groom on his wedding day in a shooting that drew a furious outcry from family members and community leaders.

The spray of bullets hit the car 21 times, after the vehicle rammed into an undercover officer and then an unmarked NYPD minivan twice, police said. Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly would not say if the collisions were what prompted police to open fire.

It was too early to say whether the shooting was justified, Kelly said.

Police thought one of the men in the car might have had a gun. But police found no weapons.

"Although it is too early to draw conclusions about this morning's shootings ... we know that the NYPD officers on the scene had reason to believe that an altercation involving a firearm was about to happen and were trying to stop it," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said in a statement.

Kelly said the incident stemmed from an undercover operation inside the strip club. Seven officers in plain clothes were investigating the Kalua Cabaret, and five were involved in the shooting. The gunfire also hit nearby homes and a train station, though no residents were injured.

A veteran officer fired his weapon 31 times, emptying two full magazines, Kelly said. All the officers carried 9 mm handguns.

The groom, who was driving, was identified as Sean Bell, 23. Joseph Guzman, 31, was in the front seat and was shot at least 11 times. Trent Benefield, 23, who was in the back seat, was hit three times. Both men were taken to Mary Immaculate Hospital. Guzman was listed in critical condition and Benefield was in stable condition.

Kelly said there may have been a fourth person in the car who fled the scene.

Three officers, including the officer hit by the car, were treated and released. Another detective remained hospitalized for blood pressure, Kelly said.

Abraham Kamara, 38, who lives a few blocks from the club, said he was getting ready for work at about 4 a.m. when he heard bursts of gunfire.

"First it was like four shots," he said. "And then it was like pop-pop-pop like 12 times."

A grand jury was investigating the incident. Kelly said none of the five veteran officers had ever discharged their weapons in the line of duty. He has not been able to interview the officers because the district attorney must first complete an investigation, he said.

The undercover officers were inside the club to document illicit activity, Kelly said. With one more violation the club would be shut down, Kelly said.

He said the establishment has a "chronic history of narcotics, prostitution and weapons complaints."

The shooting drew angry protests from family members and the Rev.
Al Sharpton.

Sharpton went to the hospitals where the men were taken and afterward held news conferences. At Jamaica Hospital, the civil rights advocate stood with about two dozen members of Bell's and his fiancee's family.

"I will stand with this family," he said. "This stinks. Something about the story being told did not seem right."

Sharpton said Bell and his fiancee had two children, ages 3 years and 5 months.

At Mary Immaculate Hospital, Sharpton said he was outraged to find the survivors handcuffed to their hospital beds. He said Guzman suffered 17 wounds, though it was unclear how many were bullet wounds, and Benefield was shot three times.

"We're not anti-police ... we're anti-police brutality," he said.

Robert Porter, who identified himself as Bell's first cousin, said he was supposed to be a DJ at the wedding. He said about 250 people were invited and were flying in from all over the country. He said his cousin wasn't the type to confront police and that he was "on the straight and narrow."

"I still don't want to believe it," Porter said, "a beautiful day like this, and he was going to have a beautiful wedding, he was going to live forever with his wife and children. And this happened."

In 1999, police killed Amadou Diallo, an unarmed West African immigrant who was shot 19 times in the Bronx. The four officers in that case were acquitted of criminal charges.

And in 2003, Ousmane Zongo, 43, a native of the western African country of Burkina Faso who repaired art and musical instruments in a Manhattan warehouse, was shot to death during a police raid. Zongo was hit four times, twice in the back.
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* I'm still shakin' my head. WTF do they mean "It was too early to say whether the shooting was justified". These men didn't do anything wrong. Man I swear this world has gone crazy. Stick a fork in me I'm done *
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Old November 26th, 2006, 12:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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NY cops strike again. Punk bastids.
 
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Old November 26th, 2006, 12:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old November 26th, 2006, 01:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Do you wonder why people of color don't give a fu** about AmeriKkk. This kind of thing would make anybody wonder is there a license to kill Black folks!
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Old November 26th, 2006, 07:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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* I'm still shakin' my head. WTF do they mean "It was too early to say whether the shooting was justified". These men didn't do anything wrong. Man I swear this world has gone crazy. Stick a fork in me I'm done *
Why Black people in general hate the police more like. That is unbelieveable, there is absolutely no sound reason for them to have opened fire regardless of what the place is notorious for.

Exactly what caused the car to rammed into an undercover officer and and unmarked NYPD minivan twice, and why were the officers undercover and the minivan unmarked?

'An altercation involving a firearm was about to happen' my foot.

It is too early to draw conclusion, right. What they mean is that 'it is too early say anything, as we have to get our stories right, as we don't want to make a cock-up of this one'
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Old November 26th, 2006, 09:12 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I just saw this on the Today show. 50 rounds seems like a lot of overkill especially since they did not see anybody with a weapon nor find any weapons in the car. Smacks of open season mentality.
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Old November 26th, 2006, 09:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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this is a disgrace...cops at it again...and now the coverup will start...when will we ever get justice...i pray the families will get some kind of justice for this injustice.
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Old November 27th, 2006, 03:41 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Newspaper reports suggested that Mr Bell and his friends had been involved in an altercation outside the club when they were shouting at another man.

One of the undercover officers allegedly heard Mr Bell shout: "Let's **** him up." Mr Guzman reportedly replied: "Go get my gun." But Mr Bell's mother retorted: "The police are covering up, because they know the police did wrong. You know how society works. They label all African-American men the same. They should have pulled out a badge before they started shooting."
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...cle2018681.ece
Here we go, now the excuses and coming out.
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Old November 27th, 2006, 09:55 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I heard about this on the news this morning. Definitely a sad, sad story. And no matter what they say, there is no way they can justify firing 50 rounds into a car they "assumed" had a weapon. This is just ridiculous and something really needs to be done, besides ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE!
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Old November 27th, 2006, 02:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
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these cops are covering things up....they need to be arrested and behind bars....if it were you or i we would have been under the jail by now....no justice no peace....
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