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Old April 1st, 2006, 12:25 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Someone in Durham commented that if the roles were reversed....white girl and a black frat house...46 brothers would be in jail already waiting for the DNA report.
I know that's right. Case Closed.
 
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Old April 5th, 2006, 05:08 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Authorities reveal e-mail message

DURHAM -- Less than an hour after a woman said she was raped at a Duke University lacrosse party, authorities say one of the team's players sent an e-mail message in which he talked about hiring strippers and killing them.

A lawyer representing one of the team's members said the e-mail, while in bad taste, does not show that a crime happened at the house, and in fact could help show what team members have said -- that no assault happened.

The text of the e-mail was included in a search warrant application investigators used to search the dorm room and apartment of team member Ryan McFadyen, a sophomore defenseman from Mendham, N.J.

According to the warrant, which was unsealed today, a confidential source sent investigators a copy of the e-mail, which they believe originated from McFadyen's Duke University e-mail address. It was sent at 1:58 a.m. on March 14, about a half hour after the woman, an employee of an escort service, told police she had been raped at the party where she had been hired to perform.

"Tomorrow night, after tonights show, ive decided to have some strippers over," the message read. "However there will be no nudity. i plan on killing bitches as soon as the walk in and proceeding to cut their skin off."

The message goes on to read that he would find the act sexually gratifying.

McFadyen's attorney could not be reached this morning. Joe Cheshire, a lawyer representing one of the team captains, said the e-mail helps support the team's story. Team members told police, according to Cheshire, that they hired women to dance and those women left the party early.

"This e-mail, while the wording of it is, at best, unfortunate, if you read this e-mail and you also are aware of other e-mails that exist contemporaneous with these events, it's quite clear that no rape happened in that house," Cheshire said. "These boys were frustrated because they, as is already been reported, they thought these women had come and taken a bunch of money and started dancing and just decided to leave."

Investigators used the warrant to search McFadyen's dorm room and car. Investigators seized posters, cash, computers, memory cards and a hard drive, papers and drawings and a disposable camera.

The reported rape has heightened weeks of tensions on and off campus. Attorneys for the players deny that any rape, assault or even sex occurred at the party, held at a North Buchanan Boulevard rental house shared by three of the team's captains. No charges have been filed.

Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong has said he is confident in the woman's story and a judge ordered all but one member of the team to submit to DNA tests. Those results are due back either this week or the next. Nifong said if charges are filed, it would likely be next week at the earliest.

Cheshire and other defense lawyers involved in the case have been critical of Nifong's public statements. He said the unsealing of the warrant today shows desperation on the part of investigators.

"If you see this case with things the police have not released, you see this case in a different light than the prosecutor going out there and saying, ‘they're guilty,'" Cheshire said. "Is it a horrible e-mail? Yes. Does it make the writer look good as a human being? Are there all kinds of moral and social issues that can be discussed about what went on that night? This e-mail does not in any way shape or form show that there was a violent sexual act that went on in that house. I would tell you that it in fact shows the opposite."

http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/425493.html

Not quite a smoking gun, but it sounds incrimiinating to me!! The Durham DA has stood firm believing the victim's story.
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Old April 5th, 2006, 09:19 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Duke lacrosse coach resigns

Duke men’s lacrosse coach Mike Pressler resigned today, shortly after the unsealing of a warrant related to a Durham police investigation of a reported rape at an offcampus party attended by members of Pressler’s team.

Calling the contents of an e-mail included with the warrant “sickening and repulsive,” Duke University president Richard Brodhead announced the cancellation of the remainder of the Blue Devils men’s lacrosse season in a separate statement.

“Coach Pressler offered me his resignation earlier this afternoon, and I accepted it,” Duke athletics director Joe Alleva said in a statement released at 4:36 p.m. “I fully support President Broadhead’s decision to cancel the remainder of the season as well as his outrage at the latest developments involving the men’s lacrosse program. I believe this is in the best interests of the program, the department of athletics and the university.”

http://www.newsobserver.com/100/story/425520.html

Now why would the coach resign, unless there is something that will come out that will reflect badly on him?
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Old April 6th, 2006, 12:15 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I just cant wait until all the truth about the situation comes out. I would also love to know what the lone Negro on the squad has to say about all this, since race is a central part of this story.
 
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Old April 6th, 2006, 12:41 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Thank you Brotha BV for bringing up that point. Essentially, you point is valid. The women was nothing more than a high class hoer with arranged Johns and either way you look at it it's a risky buisness. I was waiting for somebody to be realistic and bring this point up.
And....man i swear..it dont make it justifiable....pure bull sh1t
 
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Old April 6th, 2006, 01:20 AM   #26 (permalink)
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he is just trying to spin this in his clients favor.
BV, it dosen't suprise me one bit. Eventhough the lawyer knows his clients are full of bonefide , he's only interested in getting paid.

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And....man i swear..it dont make it justifiable....pure bull sh1t
No one here said that the crime was justified my sista so don't get it twisted. At the end of the day, the fact remains that the young lady should've got her money for college through more conventional means of financial aide(loans, grants,scholarships, etc.) instead of putting herself in harms way by allowing her body to be used for profit.
 
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Old April 6th, 2006, 01:45 AM   #27 (permalink)
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At the end of the day, the fact remains that the young lady should've got her money for college through more conventional means of financial aide(loans, grants,scholarships, etc.) instead of putting herself in harms way by allowing her body to be used for profit.[/b]
I know people who have been through financial aid and it ain't that easy. Not to mention this lady had children to feed and at the end of the day that's more important than anything and I don't think any of us should be sitting in judgement of her for doing that. At least she's working toward something better for herself and her family. I wish she didn't feel as though she needed to do that but she did and I ain't her and I don't have to take responsibility for her family needs either so I sure don't have business tellin her how to make her money. But to me her profession is a moot point. A horrible crime was committed here and something needs to be done about it.
 
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Old April 6th, 2006, 02:15 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I know people who have been through financial aid and it ain't that easy. Not to mention this lady had children to feed and at the end of the day that's more important than anything and I don't think any of us should be sitting in judgement of her for doing that.
Regardless of the fact that she had kids and didn't want to go through financial aide, that still doesn't justify her allowing me to objectify her body for profit by stripping. but that excuse holds no weight here b/c there are too many sistas with children that I know personally that got their Bachelors and/or Masters without stooping too the lows that this sista did to get money.

However, her poor judgement in profession doesn't justify rednecks victimizing her. And, I hope that they are delt with by the fullest extent of the law as I said previously.

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Old April 6th, 2006, 02:50 AM   #29 (permalink)
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And....man i swear..it dont make it justifiable....pure bull sh1t
I agree. Since I'm not paying someone else's bills, I try to stay away from judging others on how THEY decide to make money to pay THEIR bills, or college tuition. Barring anything illegal such as drugs or prostitution, it's THEIR business.

Do I recommend this line of work for anyone trying to work themselves through college? NO.

No matter what a woman does for a living, nothing justifies this type of abuse.

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Regardless of the fact that she had kids and didn't want to go through financial aide, that still doesn't justify her allowing me to objectify her body for profit by stripping. but that excuse holds no weight here b/c there are too many sistas with children that I know personally that got their Bachelors and/or Masters without stooping too the lows that this sista did to get money.

However, her poor judgement in profession doesn't justify rednecks victimizing her. And, I hope that they are delt with by the fullest extent of the law as I said previously.
Who is she supposed to be justifying herself to? IMO the only somebodies she has to answer to is her children and God. I'm sorry I just don't think any of us should be sitting in judgement of her and her decisions when she's a grown woman making a grown choice to objectify herself. Don't get me wrong, again I say I don't think it's a respectable profession and it's obvious neither do you MadameX, but in most things I just have a problem with telling people what they should or should not have done cuz I don't appreciate it when anyone comes at me like that. So I reckon we'll just agree to disagree on that particular point. As long as we're on the same page about the rape we can get back to business.
 
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