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Old May 12th, 2008, 01:07 AM   #41 (permalink)
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So your point that abortion is murder leads to what resolution exactly?? Obviously your intent is that if the act is murder it should be illegal, or are you simply sharing your moral perspective?

If your point is that the act should be illegal, that definition above has no bearing on the legal system otherwise wild animals are murderers everyday, furriers are murderers everyday...every slaughterhouse in this country is practicing murder everyday. The definition above simply states "to kill", it doesn't specify what or who or why, its just a verb...and what is inhumane or barbaric is subjective....so again....what is your point with regards to equating abortion with an act of murder? If you aren't arguing that your point of view requires a legal resolution, then what ARE you arguing? That abortion is murder because you say so? That's it?
Sista, the PRACTICE of stopping the LIFE of an ALIVE being is MURDER! I mean what word would you or others like me to use......what maybe "shutdown" or the word they use..."Pro-Choice"....naaaaa i consider it MURDER, and thats the universal definition, F*** the dictionary, the universal word for stopping life at the hands of another human being, is called murder! But as i said i respect all the brothas and sistas viewpoints and beliefs, i'm not trying to change em! I know i'm correct though in understanding that we all see the 13 MILLION abortions of black babies since 1973 as senseless and too much, so as long as thats understood, there's no problem!!
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Old May 12th, 2008, 02:35 AM   #42 (permalink)
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The slaves in the South were all black as the night its self execept for the oreo babies that most likely came from a forced from the slave owners raping their slaves. No black person had a goo an easy life in the late 1800’s, but the people who were best off were the male slaves in the South. Even though they were not free and could never be free anthropologist negroligests such as Issac Hayes, Richard Dean Anderson, believe they were better off than the free slaves in the north. Even though the north wanted to abolish slavery, they were still racist towards blacks. Negroligists have also discovered that the slaves were much better fed than blacks in the north, but is negroligist have all agreed that benefits of being a slave were out wieghed by freedom. When Richard Dean Anderson started his career as an actor/negroligists he was determined to figure out all there is to know about slave and make a movie about it in order to make 3.5 million dollars. Instead he did a show called MacGyver which taught everyone who watched what life was life back in black, late 1800’s for black peoples. In episode 603 when Mac, as I like to call him, came across an ice cream store that refused to the black youth he he taught everyone that blacks and whites are different but all people. Mac let everyone relise that we the people are all the same yet different by taking a scoop of Rocky Road andatangerine and using these items to kick the **** out of the racist ice cream store owner played by a Mr. Ed Asner Bob Denver. Tom Hanks once told Richard Dean Anderson that life is like being a Swedish girl in a German shiza video because your always getting **** on. Richard Dean Anderson told Tom Hanks that was the worst thing he has ever herad heard and told Tom that life was more like a box of chocolates because you never know what the ************* flavors are. Tom then got the idea to make a movie about a mentally challenged person who learns this lesson over the course of many years. After MacGyver Richard put more time into negroligy and made many breakthroughs in the field. He found that blacks are and always have been darker than whites. In conclusion Richard Dean Anderson (MacGyver) abolished slavery by travling back in time with a piece of metal and a rubber band and defeated the South in the civil war.
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Old May 12th, 2008, 12:28 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Sista, the PRACTICE of stopping the LIFE of an ALIVE being is MURDER! I mean what word would you or others like me to use......what maybe "shutdown" or the word they use..."Pro-Choice"....naaaaa i consider it MURDER, and thats the universal definition, F*** the dictionary, the universal word for stopping life at the hands of another human being, is called murder! But as i said i respect all the brothas and sistas viewpoints and beliefs, i'm not trying to change em! I know i'm correct though in understanding that we all see the 13 MILLION abortions of black babies since 1973 as senseless and too much, so as long as thats understood, there's no problem!!
So I guess I should be punished for that massive ant-colony I destroyed this weekend. Or perhaps the obese and pregnant woman that continues to eat high risk foods should be charged with attempted murderer....lol! Or I guess all the executioners in this country should be punished an brought to justice for their participation in state-mandated killings of cirminals.

Get off your high horse. If you have a truly consistent sense of morality, you wouldn't be so hypocritical.
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Old May 12th, 2008, 04:11 PM   #44 (permalink)
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So I guess I should be punished for that massive ant-colony I destroyed this weekend. Or perhaps the obese and pregnant woman that continues to eat high risk foods should be charged with attempted murderer....lol! Or I guess all the executioners in this country should be punished an brought to justice for their participation in state-mandated killings of cirminals.

Get off your high horse. If you have a truly consistent sense of morality, you wouldn't be so hypocritical.
But understand that morally all those things are considered murder, its not about a high horse, maybe it s just that i'm more into god than most folks and i see these issues as against his word, and accordingly most that are in disagreement, really feel that its nothing immoral or wrong about it, see most are applying this to man's law, i'm talking god's law, and just common sense belief that if you end something that is alive then YES you have committed a sin!

I mean even i'm guilty of these things, i take it many also don't believe in animal killing as wrong as well, because they're not considered human, so thats why in our minds we see a dead animal just as dead, and don't hold it up as bad as a human's death...I think that type of mentality is being on a "High Horse".
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But understand that morally all those things are considered murder, its not about a high horse, maybe it s just that i'm more into god than most folks and i see these issues as against his word, and accordingly most that are in disagreement, really feel that its nothing immoral or wrong about it, see most are applying this to man's law, i'm talking god's law, and just common sense belief that if you end something that is alive then YES you have committed a sin!
All throughout your babbling and rambling, you seem to have neglected to point some thing out -all of your pro-life ranting, religious histrionics and genocidal race conspiracies, are your opinions. And your opinions are just that -someones opinion. There is nothing wrong with that (stating your opinion) but you should keep this in mind. Why? Because contrary to your strident belief that you are right and everyone else who disagrees is morally suspect, there are intelligent and reasonable counter thoughts to your opinions.

Your rants somehow suggest that you have the correct moral answers and your opinions are logical deductions of Gods law. Sorry to burst the bubble that insulates you from reality, but for the record -everyone does not share your view nor agree with you. And they are no less moral, responsible, humane, intelligent or flawed. I strongly suggest you consider this.
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But understand that morally all those things are considered murder, its not about a high horse, maybe it s just that i'm more into god than most folks and i see these issues as against his word, and accordingly most that are in disagreement, really feel that its nothing immoral or wrong about it, see most are applying this to man's law, i'm talking god's law, and just common sense belief that if you end something that is alive then YES you have committed a sin!

I mean even i'm guilty of these things, i take it many also don't believe in animal killing as wrong as well, because they're not considered human, so thats why in our minds we see a dead animal just as dead, and don't hold it up as bad as a human's death...I think that type of mentality is being on a "High Horse".
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Speak for yourself. Don't put me into your generalization as a means to cover up your hypocritical grandstanding. You have no idea of how I view death.
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Sista, the PRACTICE of stopping the LIFE of an ALIVE being is MURDER! I mean what word would you or others like me to use......what maybe "shutdown" or the word they use..."Pro-Choice"....naaaaa i consider it MURDER, and thats the universal definition, F*** the dictionary, the universal word for stopping life at the hands of another human being, is called murder! But as i said i respect all the brothas and sistas viewpoints and beliefs, i'm not trying to change em! I know i'm correct though in understanding that we all see the 13 MILLION abortions of black babies since 1973 as senseless and too much, so as long as thats understood, there's no problem!!

Sooooo....the title of this discussion is "Abortions Need To Be Banned"...and you've decided to dispense of any legal argument - although its a legal matter and base your stance from a purely emotional state....okay. I will personally ban myself from having an abortion. Done.

Now from what I've read, you've yet to provide a sound argument for banning abortions for other women...you've spouted some real good rhetoric, you've ranted rather nicely...even made some talking points that were frighteningly similar to Pat Buchanan...but no actual argument about other women and why you believe you are empowered to make that choice on their behalf, against their will if necessary, and with no regard for their health, physical or mental. You provided a link in your initial post. You provide a link to an organization that is obviously against abortions within the black community specifically. Now, there was a lot of information about why women shouldn't have abortions.... I didn't find one paragraph, a sentence, not even a phrase on assistance to mothers with children out of utero.

This organization that you've so readily embraced that now you're preaching "Abortions Need To Be Banned"...its located in Montclair, NJ. Took all of 5 seconds googling that city to find out that perhaps their energy could be better served at this time assisting the children and teens that are struggling with LIFE right now. I checked just to be sure (wouldn't want to assume) - and no, New Jersey does not have a 0% poverty rate or a 0% juvenile crime rate (violent offenses mind you) or a 100% high school graduation rate. Sadly, it doesnt appear to be a utopia for black children at all.

Perhaps when your friends who are hollering about genocide due to abortion can open up their eyes to the genocide created by a 357 magnum and an angry teen who never had a shot in life, then I'll listen.
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...you're trippin' bruh. Let it go ....oh yeah, GO CAVS!!
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