Abortions Need To Be Banned, Its Wrecking Us!

[DBlack]

Originally Posted by 216 East

Well i disagree, because MURDER IS MURDER imo,and as far as the 94%, the link on the opening statement is where it is stated, and i do believe wholeheartedly based on what i see as well, that abortion clinics locate their clinics in and around black communities for a reason, and i'm sure its not for logical reasons!

But i understand the different points of view, but to me a life in the womb is there obviously because of the practice of SEX which lead to the conception of the being, so therefore the process of life has been initiated by BOTH, but with this murderous law, it basically gives the woman the right to play god, so by saying its between her and god, makes liile sense to me, because god doesn't condone the killing of LIFE! But thats just my opinion!

If you are willing to beleive such a ridiculous statistic, there is no point even debating with you. And unless you've been all over the country and surveyed millions of woman, there's no way you can intelligently surmise that you 'know that to be fact'. Ridiculous.

OK, fine, you disagree. I'm not interested in arguing about where life begins, because you define it in accordance of what is morally acceptable to you.

To illustrate the foolishness of your position, If we were to declare abortion a crime, we would also have to do the same for every woman that was careless while pregnant, resulting in the death of her baby. We would also have to charge the father for accessory to the crime as he failed to prevent her from committing the act. And then we would have the situation where millions more babies are flooding the public childcare system, because of your narrow minded selfish ideals.

Tell me, how many of these children have you adopted? I would guess none.

Abortion is a hard and tough decision that is between a woman and her God. You, nor I have a right to make that decision for her. We don't make laws governing how people treat their bodies. That's called social oppression.

[mlr710]

Originally Posted by 216 East

So i take it you don't want to answer that question huh? *shakes head* I'll leave the question out there, for whenever you would like to answer it, ok...:)

Is It Murder?

No, abortion is not murder. Murder isn't a medical term, its a legal term. There is no state or federal law that states an abortion procedure is a homicide.

[sephari]

Originally Posted by mlr710

No, abortion is not murder. Murder isn't a medical term, its a legal term. There is no state or federal law that states an abortion procedure is a homicide.

very interesting point. but then by that logic in countries were it is illegal having and abortion would be murder.

[mlr710]

Originally Posted by sephari

very interesting point. but then by that logic in countries were it is illegal having and abortion would be murder.

Yes, in that country it would be...but that's not where I live. We certainly can't start basing the laws in this country on what the laws are in other countries now can we?

[Mr Gumbo]

It's up to the woman and that woman alone. No one has the right to tell another person what to do with their body. If it were me I'd hope that if I was the man, that she'd at least let me give my input before she made her decision because it's her body not mine.

[216 East]

Originally Posted by DBlack

If you are willing to beleive such a ridiculous statistic, there is no point even debating with you. And unless you've been all over the country and surveyed millions of woman, there's no way you can intelligently surmise that you 'know that to be fact'. Ridiculous.

OK, fine, you disagree. I'm not interested in arguing about where life begins, because you define it in accordance of what is morally acceptable to you.

To illustrate the foolishness of your position, If we were to declare abortion a crime, we would also have to do the same for every woman that was careless while pregnant, resulting in the death of her baby. We would also have to charge the father for accessory to the crime as he failed to prevent her from committing the act. And then we would have the situation where millions more babies are flooding the public childcare system, because of your narrow minded selfish ideals.

Tell me, how many of these children have you adopted? I would guess none.

Abortion is a hard and tough decision that is between a woman and her God. You, nor I have a right to make that decision for her. We don't make laws governing how people treat their bodies. That's called social oppression.

Why do you keep saying "between a woman and her god", what god supports the stopping of life??

So you say you don't want to debate about where life begins, o.k thats fair enough, although may i say: Life starts in the womb of the mother, my bro, doesn't the life inside of the womb breath of the mother,eat of the mother and drink of the mother, and have vital signs, i.e Heartbeat...Wouldn't that be an ALIVE LIFE?? So wouldn't the ending of that be ending a life=ALIVE??

So that would be murder right? Which means that no god you or i know of would support that. Peace Bro!

[216 East]

Originally Posted by mlr710

No, abortion is not murder. Murder isn't a medical term, its a legal term. There is no state or federal law that states an abortion procedure is a homicide.

Murder has a bunch of definitions that all mean the same thing....Here's one of the definitions....

Murder: to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously

[MadameX]

Originally Posted by 216 East

Murder has a bunch of definitions that all mean the same thing....Here's one of the definitions....

Murder: to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously

You've got a point there.

[DBlack]

Originally Posted by 216 East

Why do you keep saying "between a woman and her god", what god supports the stopping of life??

So you say you don't want to debate about where life begins, o.k thats fair enough, although may i say: Life starts in the womb of the mother, my bro, doesn't the life inside of the womb breath of the mother,eat of the mother and drink of the mother, and have vital signs, i.e Heartbeat...Wouldn't that be an ALIVE LIFE?? So wouldn't the ending of that be ending a life=ALIVE??

So that would be murder right? Which means that no god you or i know of would support that. Peace Bro!

OK, you are not even capable of making a consistent argument to support your point. Life actually begins when the sperm and the egg are created because they are living organisms. They simply form to create another. I'm making this point to show how flawed your logic is. You, nor I, have the devine wisdom or power to really say when life actually begins. We just know that is life is life!

And finally, I didn't say what God would or not support. I simply stated that it's a decision for a woman to share with no other than her God. We are all sinners. during the course of a day, we all do alot that God does not approve of, but you knew that already.

Your argument is flawed, inconsistent and frankly, tired. Focus on your life, your business, and your happiness, and you will be able to effect others in a positive way.

[Terminal Server]

I believe these women are not in any position to DECIDE whether a LIVING BEING can die or not!

How do you know? Because you say so? That's it? Are you in their shoes? Do you know what they are thinking and what their reasons are? And if so, it's still not your decision nor does it impact your personal life (other than an emotional visceral conniption). I personally don't like abortions but it's not my business (nor is it yours or the governments) to tell a woman what to do -regards of what you personally feel or believe.

Abortion should remain a choice. If you don't agree with abortion, you don't have to get one.

Thank you. End of subject...........