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November 19th, 2007, 02:07 PM
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Should the child support issue be looked at or do you think everything is all good with it?
I can see things from both sides of the fence and I think it should be looked at. I think currently in Texas they can get up to 62% of your check for child support which is over the top IMO. I was getting 54% during my years on child support and that was killing me. IMO, the courts should look at both incomes when coming up with a amount. The whole child support office is messed up too, men doing the right thing seem to get punished by all the men that ain't doing a thang. Everytime I had to go up to the CS office or call and deal with them they handled me real rough, LOL. My experience was my son's mother was already making GREAT money, she married a snow and he was making GREAT money, they was living good but the courts took me to the cleaners and I really couldn't stay afloat, even with them taking 54%, there was a extra charge of keeping health insurance on him.
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November 19th, 2007, 02:30 PM
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Should the child support issue be looked at or do you think everything is all good with it?
I can see things from both sides of the fence and I think it should be looked at. I think currently in Texas they can get up to 62% of your check for child support which is over the top IMO. I was getting 54% during my years on child support and that was killing me. IMO, the courts should look at both incomes when coming up with a amount. The whole child support office is messed up too, men doing the right thing seem to get punished by all the men that ain't doing a thang. Everytime I had to go up to the CS office or call and deal with them they handled me real rough, LOL. My experience was my son's mother was already making GREAT money, she married a snow and he was making GREAT money, they was living good but the courts took me to the cleaners and I really couldn't stay afloat, even with them taking 54%, there was a extra charge of keeping health insurance on him.
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I think here in Georgia they have started doing that but it still is a problem when oneside just doesn't want to do anything but recieve a check.
My situation is very different I have to put myself on child support because My daughters mother doesn't even want me in my childs life because we didn't get married when she wanted to. Sometimes you see the true side of some one well before things get even worst.
They should have something to deal with that issue too.
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November 19th, 2007, 03:20 PM
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I definitely believe the system should be reviewed. (1)I think the child support funds should be put on a debit card or something, that way the courts can see what the money is actually being used for, instead of sending a check.There is too much uncertainty with the funds as to whether or not the parent is doing what should be done with the money. (2) The system needs to look at all aspects of the situation. They need to think about what the parent paying child support needs to survive and how much money the other parent makes as well and that should determine the amount of child support needed each month. Both sides need to be evaluated and not just one side should be looked at.
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November 19th, 2007, 03:56 PM
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The income of your ex's new man doesn't matter, since that man is not legally responsible for your kids, nor is there any man in the world that wants the courts to start holding him financially responsible for the support of another man's kids.
62% for one kid would be a lot, I would say. But, if a man has 3 or 4 kids, I dunno. That might be just about right. It costs a lot of money to raise a houseful of kids.
The unavoidable problem with child support is that it is a lot cheaper for a man to support his kids when he is living under the same roof with them. After a divorce, he moves out, now has to pay rent and utilities somewhere else, yet is still expected by the courts to maintain his kids prior economic status. For most men, there ain't enough pay in their paycheck to pull it off. The courts err on the side of the kids. And, since the mama usually gets the kids, that means the courts also err on the side of the mama.
Johnnie Taylor was right in that old blues song. It is cheaper to keep her.
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November 19th, 2007, 04:21 PM
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First, let me be clear. If you lie down and come back up with a child? "Take care of that child." No excuses will justify a male not taking responsibility for the seed that he has sown. Exceptions? See below:
1. If DNA evidence confirms that a male has been paying for a kid that is not his? Payment should immediately cease and that "presumed" parent should be reimbursed for monies paid for a child that is not his.
2. If DNA evidence confirms a "married" male's suspicion that a child may not be his? The search should be ON for the parent that IS the child's father and then process child support accordingly.
3. Unless he is a socio-path, Jester the Molester or mentally impaired, a male that provides child-support should have a court mandate to see/visit/bond with his child(ren). That's it.
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November 19th, 2007, 05:38 PM
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I think each case is different and should be decided according to the circumstances of all parties involved. There is no cookie cutter solution. That's why you have to go before a judge. But as of late, seems like most judges feel one size fits all...I knew a few that have been royally screwed because the judge didn't assess the family dynamics as a whole.
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November 19th, 2007, 06:36 PM
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The income of your ex's new man doesn't matter, since that man is not legally responsible for your kids, nor is there any man in the world that wants the courts to start holding him financially responsible for the support of another man's kids.
62% for one kid would be a lot, I would say. But, if a man has 3 or 4 kids, I dunno. That might be just about right. It costs a lot of money to raise a houseful of kids.
The unavoidable problem with child support is that it is a lot cheaper for a man to support his kids when he is living under the same roof with them. After a divorce, he moves out, now has to pay rent and utilities somewhere else, yet is still expected by the courts to maintain his kids prior economic status. For most men, there ain't enough pay in their paycheck to pull it off. The courts err on the side of the kids. And, since the mama usually gets the kids, that means the courts also err on the side of the mama.
Johnnie Taylor was right in that old blues song. It is cheaper to keep her.
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I put the ex's man's income in there just to let you know they was balling pretty hard. I totally understand and agree that no man should have to have his money have anything to do with another man's child.
Now me being a single parent after she died, I see the other side where the money goes. I never thought about all the money it takes to raise kids, food, clothing, gas, rent and on and on but I see now. Although I think I was railroaded I understand it takes alot of money.
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November 19th, 2007, 06:42 PM
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I think here in Georgia they have started doing that but it still is a problem when oneside just doesn't want to do anything but recieve a check.
My situation is very different I have to put myself on child support because My daughters mother doesn't even want me in my childs life because we didn't get married when she wanted to. Sometimes you see the true side of some one well before things get even worst.
They should have something to deal with that issue too.
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JABOOM I feel ya brah. My situation was she got pregnaunt, I was cool but after 6 weeks I find out she was living with a joker while messing with me. He worked the graveyard shift so she'd be with me all night, and him all day. So I was like whoa we gone have to take a test because I didn't know about this dude and she got real offended. She moves out of state and I didn't see her again until the court date. I got a lawyer and they put a private investigator on her to track her down. I filed on myself because I couldn't take the chance of the child being mine so I did what I had to do. I didn't get to meet my son for the first 8 months of his life. The older and more attached he got to me the worse me and her relationship got. She tried to use sex as blackmale to see my son more, all I had to do was F her on a reg basis and she'd work with me but hezll naw if I would of did that it would of turned into something else and something else so forget that. Since I didn't play ball with her she made my life a living hezll until she died.
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November 19th, 2007, 06:44 PM
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I have to agree with nyela each situation is different. I can understand the gripe from the men (and some women), but for the most part non-custodial parents get a real break. I don't think that child support is all-inclusive of the expense of raising a child.
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November 19th, 2007, 07:06 PM
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This is why men's child support advocacy agencies are popping up... it seems like the more "politically correct" this country gets, the more men get screwed.
Maybe a little whisper in the ear of key legislators can help get the ball moving for some change.
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