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Old January 9th, 2005, 01:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Do Black And White People Raise Their Kids Differently

Do black kids respect their parents more than white kids do? Does the black parents parenting skills have something to do with the fact that a black kid hasnt shot a entire school up yet?

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Old January 9th, 2005, 02:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I have been around many white people and it really depends on the family. They have many ethnicities among them and depending on which one you encounter, you will see different parenting. My best friend comes from an eastern european family...they dont mess around at all and were as strict as my parents though some things about their parenting style were different. There are other white families that are not strict at all and dont discipline.

Alot of blacks....most of whome have never been around white people in their home environment, make generaliztions about white folks. I didnt know too many kids that didnt get hit as one of the forms of punishment growing up. I knew many that knew the phrase "you wanna cry, I'll give you something to cry about" very well.

As for the fact that they shoot up schools more. I am not sure what causes that. White adult males are the ones shooting up factories and suburban office complexes too. I just dont know if it goes to parenting or what exactly causes it. Many whites feel they are owed "white priveledge", though they dont say it, and when they struggle in any way, they cant believe it and snap. Also, it may be that mental problems affect them differently than they affect us. Their suicide rates are much higher, so depression clearly has a different effect becuase no one can deny there is alot of depression in our community.

I'll wait to see what others think though,

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Old January 9th, 2005, 08:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes, I believe that black and white children are raised differently, but there are times when it makes me wonder how long it'll last.

A good number of black children have been raised on a switch or strap of leather, whereas white children are allowed to argue their point and seek to exercise all kinds of 'rights,' in a parent's attempt to not dominate or negate their feelings. I believe in hearing a child out too and allowing them CERTAIN rights, but yelling at me, slamming doors, 'cussin' at me and all that? Not today.

That "time out" and "cool down moment" mess is a copout for some parents who are two tired to go the distance with their children, who have become out of control. If they were to hang with it a time or two and get so krunk that they scare themselves...

Some black children are testing the waters though. I know black children who talk all kinds of madness to their parents and I just shake my head because I know that there'd be some serious assault and battery going on, if it were me. Anymore, people have become afraid to discipline their child(ren). The thought of having them call CPS or otherwise misconstrue their punishment, is the deciding factor with that.

On the other hand, I've seen some white people tear their children up! The funny thing is that when they snatched 'em up and started working 'em, the first thing out of my mouth was, "He's/She's been around some black people." I don't mean that they popped their hands or legs either, they straight up wore that butt out.

I guess it would be safe to say that the way that black children have been raised has been a contributing factor in their not shooting up any schools, but if they could use the same restraint in other areas (that are destroying our community), that would be the prize.
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Old January 9th, 2005, 02:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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well ive seen black children and white children acting a fool in public and carrying on ive never seen white children being diciplined yet and i work with children of all races. Seems to me the white children in my class and in my school are very disrespectfull at a young age. They tell their parents no, i dont want to, you do it, and all kinds of stuff

i dont think diciplin is the reason these children are shooting up schools because while the white kids are shooting up schools the black kids are stabbing people at their schools and they are selling drugs and they beat kids up and doing other things. I think that those parents of the shooters should be more involved in their children's lives dont just put your child in their own room and their door is closed and you dont know what the heck is going on. Those children planned the shooting for weeks and weeks while the parents sat downstairs drinking coffee talking about"arent our children the best"
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Old January 9th, 2005, 02:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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There are problems on both sides. There black and whites who are permissive and neglectfull. There are whites and blacks who beleive it is all about "wearing them out" and think that whipping with objects is why kids behave.

I think black people need to get outta the mind state that some magic wand (belt, switch etc) made them act right. What you are taught makes one act right. Hitting may enforce that....but the strength of the hit and the use of magic wands does not increase the potency of any lesson. It is just easy and fear is mistaken for respect and lessons learned. That is why there are as many blacks in jail whoes parents never knew what they were doing ever, as there are whoes parents beleived the belt was a magic wand.

But dont tell black people that.......they dont like views not in line with what is trendy because "change is bad".

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Remember the DC Sniper a couple of years ago? All the profilers were sure that it had to be a white male doing the shooting. The black community was shocked and embarassed by that one.

I think the differences that we have made us proud that we are "not like THEM" are slowly eroding as we become a more homogeneous society.

My children are all grown, and I saw major differences in the way I raised them and in they way their white friends were raised. But when I look at the teenagers that I interact with these days, there are more similarities, especially the ones who live in mostly white suburbs. Those parents seem to be getting away from the old values as fast as they got away from the inner city. It's sad to watch.
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I don't think respect has anything to do with it especially when I look at the amount of assaults going on in the schools, a lot of which, contributes to the amount of drive-bys and other black on black crimes.

Maybe it's fear that the punishment will somehow be worse. :confused:







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Do black kids respect their parents more than white kids do? Does the black parents parenting skills have something to do with the fact that a black kid hasnt shot a entire school up yet?

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I don't think respect has anything to do with it especially when I look at the amount of assaults going on in the schools, a lot of which, contributes to the amount of drive-bys and other black on black crimes.

Maybe it's fear that the punishment will somehow be worse. :confused:
TRUE!!! We all know in a court of law that white kids are "sweet little mikey that went astray" meanwhile, black kids are "Jermain the thug from a rotten home". If the Columbine killers lived they would be locked up for life either in a jail or a mental home. The concentration would be on finding other kids who are picked on and saving them from that fate. Had the killers been black, they would get the death penalty and the focus would be on criminality of black males.

This is definitely not the whole reason....but a factor. Also, I think that more white kids are in homes with lots of guns in them. They have better access and a white person buying a sub machine gun for "personal use" wont draw the same attention as a black person doing the same. If the black person got that gun, they would be under such suspicion, it would be under lock and key when not getting fired and never end up in a childs hands.

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Remember the DC Sniper a couple of years ago? All the profilers were sure that it had to be a white male doing the shooting. The black community was shocked and embarassed by that one.

I think the differences that we have made us proud that we are "not like THEM" are slowly eroding as we become a more homogeneous society.

My children are all grown, and I saw major differences in the way I raised them and in they way their white friends were raised. But when I look at the teenagers that I interact with these days, there are more similarities, especially the ones who live in mostly white suburbs. Those parents seem to be getting away from the old values as fast as they got away from the inner city. It's sad to watch.
It is a VALUES thing....regardless of the parent's tendancy to physically punish or not. There are some values of discipline (not punishment) and teaching that are falling by the wayside. I dont think this can be blaimed on moving to the suburbs. It most blacks still live in black areas in the US. You are also right that we are ending up doing some crimes that used to be considered a white mans thing.

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It is a VALUES thing....regardless of the parent's tendancy to physically punish or not. There are some values of discipline (not punishment) and teaching that are falling by the wayside. I dont think this can be blaimed on moving to the suburbs. It most blacks still live in black areas in the US. You are also right that we are ending up doing some crimes that used to be considered a white mans thing.

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I blame it on the suburbs only if it means getting caught up in those activities that take children away from the nurturing that we expect in black homes. When Sunday morning means the soccer game instead of church, or when kids eat most of their meals with friends instead of at home with family.
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