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Old January 9th, 2005, 05:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Remember the DC Sniper a couple of years ago? All the profilers were sure that it had to be a white male doing the shooting. The black community was shocked and embarassed by that one.
I for one was shocked. I could not believe it when I saw that the alleged suspects were black.

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Both races of parents may have different methods and skills in raising their children, but I believe that collectively most do what they think to be right and/or what they feel is the and will be the best for their child. Not too many parents intentionally set out to raise their children as murders, rapists, abusers etc..
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Old January 9th, 2005, 05:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I blame it on the suburbs only if it means getting caught up in those activities that take children away from the nurturing that we expect in black homes. When Sunday morning means the soccer game instead of church, or when kids eat most of their meals with friends instead of at home with family.
This makes sense in a way....but white people are religious too. Many blacks have simply tired of relying on the church for everything. On can have a perfectly moral upbringing and go to soccer instead of church on sunday. There are some things that have been lost. We got people living the suburbn life spending more time at work and commuting to and from work than being with their families. We got people letting TV raise kids. Those are major...but to hang it on religion and pretend that one race is more religious than the other, and to think going to church does anything to raise kids right more than a caring parent is wrong in my book.

My father never set foot in church, my mother used to take us, but as time went by, none of us went anymore.....my last time was at age 15 and we have been raised with good values. All the good things I learned came from my parents and not the church or school. I feel it is up to black parents, not a book, church or school, to raise the kids.

Anyways, this is off topic, I just wanted to say that there are some assumptions in your post as much as overall it makes sense. To each their own though. :wink:

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Old January 9th, 2005, 05:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think black and white people raise their kids differently because a lot of white folks will let their kids walk all over them by telling them "I hate you" "It's my life" and the beat goes on.

Example:

2 yr old white kid in Albertsons Grocery Store yelling his head off because he/she wants some cookies. Mom goes "What Do You Want honey"? while pulling out her hair.. H@il! woman he doesn't know what he wants!!! he's 2. Whip his butt :mad:

2 yr old black kid in Albertsons Grocery Store knows better then to even try it cause he'll get smacked with the quickness. Yet he knows better.

My olderst daughter is 28 and I've never had a problem with her nor her younger brothers and sisters. I can't be your friend and "Kick It" with you because that's not the way it works.

I don't understand how some familys can just sit there and let their children walk all over them. It's not gonna happen in my household. I'm the captain of the ship and if you don't like it you know what to do. Yes I snoop in my kids bizzness because I don't want or need any surprises , I'm not user friendly when it comes to that.

Tough love is a mother when it comes to kids nowdays because a lot of parents don't have time nor do they care. I'm the product of a 60's childhood and I turned out aiight. I'll just keep it the way it is.

So yeah. Blacks and whites raise their kids differently. Only difference is.. I do it the right way. :)
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Old January 9th, 2005, 05:27 PM   #14 (permalink)
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My father never set foot in church, my mother used to take us, but as time went by, none of us went anymore.....my last time was at age 15 and we have been raised with good values. All the good things I learned came from my parents and not the church or school. I feel it is up to black parents, not a book, church or school, to raise the kids.

Anyways, this is off topic, I just wanted to say that there are some assumptions in your post as much as overall it makes sense. To each their own though. :wink:

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OOPS, I hit a hot button there, did I?
But I really wanted to make a point of the importance of family nurturing, and spending time talking to each other about what you believe, whether it's in a church, around a dinner table, watching TV together, or whatever.
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Old January 9th, 2005, 05:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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OOPS, I hit a hot button there, did I?
But I really wanted to make a point of the importance of family nurturing, and spending time talking to each other about what you believe, whether it's in a church, around a dinner table, watching TV together, or whatever.
Yeah...the together thing,....or at least communication between the parents and kids is good. I dont think communication was always a good thing in the community though. Back in the day parents just scared the hell out of.....and beat the hell outta their kids. I have seen bad results of that and shattered families. The communication thing is important for real.

I agree with Jamie C about being all up in their bizness......there were no locks on my room and my mom was all over that place. Not spying or anything, it was just normal. It was normal to be on top of what school work I was supposed to do, where I was going, that I call when I get there, who was there....etc.

I think it is more common to have latch key kids now....especially with single parents who gotta work. The kids are doing some of the raising themself.....that is a problem.

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Old January 9th, 2005, 06:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Do black kids respect their parents more than white kids do?

Can't Say if More.I don't think Kids nowadays in general have much "respect" for their parents or authority figures..teachers,cops..etc..They seem to respect a lot what Celebs,Sports Figures and Rappers say and do.....

Does the black parents parenting skills have something to do with the fact that a black kid hasnt shot a entire school up yet?

I don't think so in such a blanket statement as that. Seems,whereas a YT kid may "shoot-up" his school,A Black Kid may "shoot up" or "drug" up his whole neighborhood. Many Black "Parents" homes are pretty much run by predom. Single Mom-Parents.In YT homes to hear Mainstream tell it,the majority of the YT Dads are still in the household with the Mom's raising their " Lil Marilyn Manson" in the Exclusive Country Gated Community SOME of them may live..So I don't know if it's our parenting skills or not.Generally,we as a Racial Profiled Community of Black People are products of such fragmented households.I don't know how much cohesive "Black" parentiing is getting thru for the kids sake when theSingle OOW Parents often can't Stand each other.Lil "Tommy" does his school and " Tyrone" destroys his neighborhood selling drugs.Ironically,Both could be living in the "Suburbs"...neither from a true Hard Core PJ or a Trailer Park..so IMO,each "angry youth" just manifest his outlet for hispent-up "emotions" in different but equally felt self destructive,community destructive ways..one no better or worse than the other..Raging Youth speaking

All in all IMO,Both race youths are capable of reeking (sp) havoc and mayhem.A Kid feeling like he needs to prove "something" can be a menace to any society.They may feel they'd rather listen to the lonley peers in the streets,rock or rap teachings than involved parents or surrogate "parent-role models" like a male teacher,Karate instructor or even ball little league coaches.
Discuss...............
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Old January 21st, 2005, 05:15 PM   #17 (permalink)
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yes there is a difference in the parenting styles of all ethic groups. You have your good you have your styles. But I still say till this day there is no way in this world or the next that a child of mine could have build a bomb or had guns and I did not know about it. Meaning those kids, those trench coat kids. To have all that stuff and I am in the same house with them. It is not just white kids that have gone crazy the black have lose there minds. We must be there parents not there buddies.
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Old January 21st, 2005, 06:42 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Oh wow, great topic, before I read any replies let me answer this dynamo. Yes, overall black children fear their parents more than white children. In the early 90's their was a special television document on just that subject matter. I'm still trying to find it to this day. Anyway, it showed that white kids do drugs 10 to 1 over black kids and when examining the reason black kids did not engage it was because they 'feared their parent's' repercussions whereas the white kids did not. The same thing went for a variety of issues they discussed. All the stats. favored the black and it was a shock that the Fox network of that era allowed it to be shown.

There is a deeper foundation among overall righteous blacks that is not among the white race. The privliged white kids are spoiled with entitlements, preferences, handouts as is the racist U.S. set up, whereas the honorable black kids are taught humility and trust in God, that's the real difference between the two. Now of course, their are exceptions to the overall black kids vs. white kids rules but by and large this is the truth that makes the two different amidst seemingly overall general parenting.
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Blak I agree...
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I agree with Jamie C about being all up in their bizness......there were no locks on my room and my mom was all over that place. Not spying or anything, it was just normal. It was normal to be on top of what school work I was supposed to do, where I was going, that I call when I get there, who was there....etc.
This is also a real problem...
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I think it is more common to have latch key kids now....especially with single parents who gotta work. The kids are doing some of the raising themself.....that is a problem.
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I think that those parents of the shooters should be more involved in their children's lives dont just put your child in their own room and their door is closed and you dont know what the heck is going on. Those children planned the shooting for weeks and weeks while the parents sat downstairs drinking coffee talking about"arent our children the best"
Or rather, talking about, 'aren't black kids bad?'

Anyway, excellent comments.
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