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Originally Posted by Chevron Dove
You asked me a lot in your first paragraph. But before I answer you, I don't remember saying anything about 'religion' of which you commented on. I did not refer to 'Bible religion' but I referred to 'Bible as a record of history by dates and times'. So if you do not believe that the Bible contains 'Black History' then, what do you beleive? You beleive that this Federal government gave you accurate Black History!?
I dated Bible History to the Federal government's 'approved state' history. I compared and constrasted timelines. I did not talk about religion.
Next, my Great grandmother was from Sudan and came from the Port of Sudan and I agree partly to your statements about Ham.
Concerning AbraHam, I do not think I fully follow your question. Are you stating that 'Semetic people' are not black! All aboriginal Semetic [Shem] people are 'Seth' [South world people] or 'black'. But AbraHam was the son of a Semitic man and an Cushitic woman from 'Ur of the Chaldees'. His name 'Abram' defines him as such and so does his history.
I do not understand why you state that Christianity and Islam are white oriented.
As far as Separation of Church and State, I believe that it was good for the State to separate from the church because, if they did not believe in Jesus then, they should have separated. Now speaking religiously, I believe that if Jesus is real then, he knows how to take care of a nation that uses him as a basis for hundreds of years to kill and murder his race of people and then separate 'when the going gets good'. I'm not going to argue with you about that. I don't care for neither periods when this nation operated slavery under Christianity nor after the Separation of Church and State.
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What I mean is that you say Semitic people were black. When the etymology of the word would imply to us that Semites were half breeds, hence Semi-this or that. Anyway my point is that if they were black, the Hebrews that is. Then it would be sort of inconsistent with the Story of Ham. Never mind the fact that in the bible of all the people of color or black people mention, none of them were "Bantu" and by Bantu, I mean west to south Central African decent.. Which is what US Americans of African decent really are, Bantu speakers. So basically even if they were black, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are relevant to us in America, save for maybe sentimental reasons. You are of Sudanic decent so I would think that would take on a different dynamic in your case. But generally most African Americans aren't of Sudanese decent which is Niolitic and NOT Bantu Africans. Anyway, No I do not rely no the government to give me Black history. Also, I didn't know that the government had even issued any anthologies or proclamations of Black history. But what I can do is take government sources, such as archives at libraries and such, and see that which has been historically preserved for the public. Something our people don't actually seem to be aware is right here at our disposal. I rather rely on myself when searching for history rather than using only one source. And I would hardly consider the bible even a hit and miss source of Ancient Black History... Since it 1 wasn't written about us, 2 written by us, or even written for us. Let alone the fact that we are NOT EVEN MENTIONED in the bible. Now if anyone could find a scripture in the bible that does include us, then I would greatly appreciate it.. Mentioning of Egyptian and Sudanese Kings, which the bible does do, hardly constitute our History. And despite some popular Belief, Africans in America are NOT Jews !
Because if we were Jews, then that would say that the Africans are NOT our ancestors, and that they are inferior to us, and that is not true either... So basically we cant have it both was. We have to reconstruct our history ourselves. I say Christianity is a white mans religion, because the first Christian church was A European Church... Then through white supremacy it eventually made its way to Egypt and Ethiopia. Some Afrocentrics seem to be under the perception that the Ethiopian Christian church somehow predates the European one, but that is hardly the case. When Ethiopia was conquered by the Romans I think, they had to submit, and eventually picked up Christianity, so it has been White Supremacy from the start. Only back then they didn't realize it.. Because they didn't quite have the concept of Race