[Baba Ahmed]

While in the womb. In some Afrikan societies there're folk who can know what's in the womb: male or female. My wife has been correct on each of our children; that's why I say begin in the womb. And as she grows whenever a situation calls for it. On her level, not only by us but friends, certain relatives and definitely grandparents. One granddaughter did her own celebration for her 1st mense period. Its a joy just to see her act so. In a few weeks there will be a more formal introduction into Wombman hood with my wife and whoever she invites; her aunts and maybe a few of their friends... leading the ceremonies and rituals will be a sista who conducts workshops on Divine Womb for Life; another is a part NDN sista we've known since she was prepuberty ages. Knowing her, I'm sure there'll be some Sage burnt, etc. Otherwise what they do I know not. Males and men, even of the close family are out. Period. We live in the say'n it takes a village to rear a child. Of course we know that Hillary Clinton did not come up with that, as the major media tried to con people in America to believe. So, the European concocted concept of a "nuclear family" is literally non-sense to us. Also e.g., some Afrikan ethnic groups teach that the best to rear children are grandparents, because there's too much friction between children and their parents; and that the Grandparents and children have a similar relating point: babies are fresh from the realms of the unseen; old folk like me are passing on to them. Plus my passed on Mama in-law says grandchildren are my wife and my "2nd chance."

To us there is no specific proper age outside of a rites of passage. And that more than a child's parents should be involved.