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Old December 22nd, 2007, 05:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by amilcarkabral View Post
Sasori, i've got lots of questions for you. And hopefully you'll take them in the spirit in which they were asked: honest questions to know more about your beliefs on this topic. I'd like to really have an in-depth analysis of this topic.

IMO:
The United States of America was not founded on capitalism. It was founded on the enlightenment values of personal freedom. It just so happens that capitalism is the economic system that dovetails with the philosophical and political principles of individual freedom.

What 'moves made in 1913' nullified what?

Wealth is not subjective. That's fancy wordplay and politician speak from the government. You an I know that wealth has real value, even if the government attempts to say that it doesn't. And what has you think that anyway?

Why do you say land is not the property of the individual?

How did the central bank do away with the true sense of capitalism. And what can't be regulated by any government office? Capitalism or the Fed?
No problem brother, no offense taken here

In personal freedom, capitalism is what facilitates these freedoms, without that system, others couldn't be established. They [our forefathers]understood this, and the War of Independence was based solely for the fact that we wanted to be commanders of our own future from the motherland [England] which sought to tax our monies and called our state created wealth [monies] counterfeit. It is a nation's right as well as a sign of a prosperous country. Your funding is based off of a standard which is readily redeemable as well as able to convert to other nations through the same method. For a gold bar might cost less in the UK because of their system, but it is readily convertable into value.

This is also the reason why raw diamonds, which may have its flaws, would still redeem monies in any monetary system throughout the world. And the proliferation of Africa sought by many nations as well as corrupt leaders willing to take their payments as such. Because there is transferable, untraceable, value which can't be denied by any nation. It is also why there was a gold rush and many modern day pirates seek to find buried treasure in the seas in order to claim the booty found from shipwrecked vessels in archaic times.

Our nation dealt away with many attempts for them to establish a central bank, thus taking away this monetary power and robbing our nation of its independence and wealth. We were on the gold standard, we also had silver certificates. You could convert a dollar into its sum in gold, and there wasn't an annual tax for it is against the Constitution because of it. The dollar always kept its worth because money wasn't given out pass the amount of gold which the country held [the gold bars in Fort Knox = $$ given to the public].

Back then, land purchased was your own without taxation. Its wealth convertable to gold if needed, and could be apportioned to those in your will without fear of confiscation. That is the basis of Capitalism in America in its essence. The system worked and the nation was wealthy while without debt... then the bottom fell out due to a few greedy people and the dogs of war were released on our nation

The creation of the Federal Reserve Act...
Currently waiting approval under articles, will update when approved

Without money and established means, you are only free of mind. If you work and receive in exchange for your labor a wage, your wage is taxed on legal tender which holds no value other than what the Federal Reserves dictates it is worth. It is not a redeemable monetary note in what our currencies were formerly backed by... precious metals. The only thing you are receiving is another debt and currently perpetuate fiscal bondage not of your own doing, but through monetary policy not controlled by the government.

If you don't want to use wealth, lets use another; riches, savings, value. In this country, nothing is given
It took command of our monetary system. Capitalism as our fore fathers wrote about, their independence, has been taken away. Our Republic which we formerly owned are in debted to private bankers.


When it comes to land, I'll answer it this way:
If you fail to pay taxes on the land which you have a deed, it is taken from you. That is not ownership, that is a lease with the tax as a rent.

Also, the IRS [agents in procuring money for the Federal Reserve] can also seize your property in order to pay them their 'due' if you miss your Federal Taxes.

There is a policy called 'Eminent Domain', which is the inherent power of the state to seize a citizen's private property, expropriate property, or rights in property, without the owner's consent. This is used as common practice by any local government to facilitate monetary moves. The latest case in which I've seen first hand happened in NYC. In Brooklyn, Atlantic Ave area, they used this policy to bounce deed holders from their establishments as old as 30 years to give the land to developers creating shopping centers as well as a stadium for the New Jersey Nets.

This is why I stress an alternative to the plan which have been taught to us. We have been taught fundamentally that homeownership and the procuring of goods is what we should do. Homeownership isn't the way, owning land which businesses are on is what we should focus on. Owning rental property in which we recieve funds to invest in our procurement of financial security other than the legal tender is what needs to be concentrated on.

Fundamentally, you are working to leave financial security and a foundation for your grandchildren, through education and financial backing. It could only happen when understanding the nation's banking and monetary policies have in store for us.

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