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Old July 7th, 2007, 12:29 PM   #87 (permalink)
marquiss
 
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Originally Posted by Baba Ahmed View Post
Which war did he vote against? Surely not the invasion of Iraq, i.e., a second phase of the war already started by his daddy.

Surely he did not vote against giving his president a free spending hand with what was it, $80 BILLION?

And b4 that why was he so tight with Mayor Daley?

Give'im a chance, huh? Why? To do what? For WHO!?! When? On "Judgment Day?"

Where is the politician who will speak clearly for Black people? Oh, damn! I forgot that Mayor Washington of Chicago passed on due to mysterious causes. Yeah right. At the very least is it not time, again, to call for a BLACK POLITICAL PARTY!?!
Brother Ahmed, what are you talking about? I can provide evidence that Barack voted against funding for the war in 2004 (can you provide evidence otherwise?), his FIRST chance as a Senator to vote on the Iraq issue, so yes, you are partially correct in your statement since he did not have the ability in 2002 to vote against the actual invasion of Iraq, BUT if you read a popular speech have gave in 2002, his views against the war for it's inception are clear.

And I think your mistaking Barack for Bush II when you say, "Surely he did not vote against giving his president a free spending hand with what was it, $80 BILLION?" Barack actually DID vote AGAINST giving the President a free-spending hand without timelines for withdrawal, so please, if your going to criticize the brother, which I have no problem with you doing, get the facts straight.

Pakawdad has it right: the chance to put a black man in the highest seat in the land, who isn't an Uncle Tom, and who could at least speak to our issues as one of us, instead of an outsider pandering for votes during election time (white people) should be enough for us to support the brother. Yes, a black political party would be great (isn't that sort of what the Nation of Islam represent?), but let's be real, that would only work on the local level, not national.

My question to those of you who say that your not going to vote for Barack because he's "just like the rest," a potential "sell-out" "not black enough" I wonder who do you think is a better alternative that has a chance of winning, or if not winning, making an impact big enough so that our issues will be acknowledged on a national level?

Lastly, let's look at the record: Obama got a perfect 100 rating from the NAACP, National Organization for Women, National Education Association, the Children’s Defense Fund, the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees and the Illinois Environmental Council (during his stint in the Illinois legislature), and the ACLU gives him high points.

These organizations address OUR issues so for them to rank Barack so highly tells me the brother must be doing something right...